TGS 2011
Hey guys!
So TGS is happening, have you been keeping up?
Here's a good list of what's been announced so far!
So far Zelda: Skyward Sword is looking amazing, and they just announced a HD remake of Final Fantasy X on the PS3 as well as some other remakes on the Vita. Nintendo have also announced a lot of cool games coming to the 3DS.
What are your thoughts?
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
Vita presentation was pretty great overall on all fronts, except one: the battery life. Much like the 3DS, it's a good reason to hold out on this one for a while.
They remade FFX before FFVII!!! XD
Honestly the Vita atm, does not interest me. It has a lot of games but all of them are ports/sequels...nothing particularly interesting. In fact, a lot of it reminds me of how the PSP is now...lots of ports. Not to say there isn't unique games for PSP atm, but a lot of them are ports...
The battery life seems worse than the 3DS..at least you can extend the battery life in 3DS by turning off the 3D to about 6-8 hours. But it feels like you are married to it in the Vita. Their trailer of the handheld with 'revolutionary design' and then showing off their buttons/joybad...is not that revolutionary at all. Any other features like 3G..i rather get a phone with a 4G plan. This thing is failing to impress me outside of its AR functions.
3DS is...i dunno wtf they doin but ugasldfkja;. That add-on killed a lot of it for me...but i still intend to get one because they have unique games you can't get anywhere else. Just WAYY later now...waiting on that redesign.
So right now, I am not hyped about most things. Games get worse every year. (Maybe except Zelda but i didnt pay as much attention to it since I don't have a Wii).
The Vita, at least for me, is great because there's going to be PS2 ports to it. And I love the PS2 library. I am not really caring too much about the tech behind it all, but rather the game library which so far hasn't impressed me. It's the same deal with the 3DS but at least they did announce some nice games coming soon, I just hope they keep that up.
Still early days though! It'll only be a matter of time before we know how many third party developers are going to back either system.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
For me the fact that one of the big "cool" things about the Vita is playing a PS3 game on the go, literally play on your PS3, and then take it on your Vita... gives me 0 interest. If I can play it on my PS3, I don't need the Vita. I rarely have time to play on the go, and if I do, I want a unique experience. That's what my 3DS gives me, because yes, it may have SOME ports, but most of the games will be exclusive to the 3DS. If I can play most of the Vita games on PS3... and lets be honest any huge game they have will offer it, then there's no point for me to get the Vita. And while Vita may get PS2 ports... so does the PS3, and it gets PSP ports. I've been playing the God of War Origins Collection since I got it yesterday cause I never did on the PSP, and it definitely makes me feel better for not buying a PSP way back when. There are other PSP games I want and I may get one in time, but there has never been a system seller I couldn't miss for me at the price.
I also want someone to make an article titled
"PS Vita Has No Battery Vita"
The fact that one of the biggest complaints about the 3DS is the battery life at 3-8 hours, and then Sony announces the battery life is 3-5, without internet active, and then advertise a 3G version which is for connecting to the internet anywhere... just seems even more ridiculous! And if it's only 3 hours, or less with internet... I really SHOULD just play it on my damn console!
So, the Vita has potential, but no games I really want even announced. The 3DS has potential, and games I currently want announced and some coming out this fall. However... I may buy a regular PSP and download some older titles on it I've always wanted to play, so when/if I do get a Vita, at least I'll still be able to play my old PSP games. UMD consumers are kinda screwed...
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Let me ask this, would you guys pay more for the device if it came with double the battery capacity? I mean, it seems to me that the reason for the low battery life is due to cost cutting.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
Wouldn't that also make it xbox hueg? I think todays battery tech means it is pretty much a 1:1 scale when it comes to physical size and battery capacity, excluding the plastic casing for it and stuff. So 50% more battery capacity would mean about a 50% increase in battery size.
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I would pay more for a battery. I mean its a big thing since its portable...
Twice the amount for extra battery life? Hellz no. No console's worth $500. A 3rd party accessory will probably be released soon afterward to extend it anyway.
JACKEL, it seems to me that you're just the stereotypical american gamer, that is, in one respect - you don't really have a need for a portable console. Me, I take at least one commute a day, spend a lot of time outside of my apartment, and I frequently travel to another state. Having a handheld on par with current gen consoles raises portable gaming several notches for me. Your argument is kind of strange because if you'd rather just play a game on your console instead of a handheld, why would you ever bother with the (up until the VIta) historically limited experiences on handhelds? Maybe it's because you don't see a lot of original content, but from epic sessions of Uncharted: Golden Abyss, to bite-sized rounds of Hot Shots golf, to the incoming tsunami of indie games with PlayStation Suite, claiming the system won't have original content makes it sound like you're in denial.
I'm also confused by the argument that console experiences don't translate to handhelds well. I'm playing Xenogears right now on my PSP and it's fantastic; in a lot of ways it's better than playing it on the PS3. I play racers, action games, strategy games, and RPGs on my PSP and all of them are incredibly fun and perfect for both smaller and longer play sessions. Hell, I use my DS Lite virtually exclusively for RPGs, some of which were previously released on consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if the most played 3DS title by users on this site is Ocarina of time.
Plus, there's a weird novelty about playing these games on a handheld. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 had absolutely no appeal to me when it came out on PS3 but Ultimate MvC3 on the Vita, with the same visual fidelity and running at 60fps... I don't know. I want it.
But even with all that, it's a system worth waiting on for me. I'd much rather wait for a newer iteration with better battery life, at a lower price, and with a larger library after the platform has found its voice. Don't get me wrong, I want a 3DS, too, but it has a lot farther to go than the Vita to garner interest, and it's already been out for half a year or so.
Why would it cost them double to make a better battery? Theres accessories for the 3DS that already prolong its life by a huge margin that doesn't take up a lot of space. So to me its just poor decision making...
I also cannot take any fighting game that seriously on a handheld. Thats just me though, I play them competitively and arcades are really the only way to go...and if theres an offline version its only for training room and I need to use a joystick or it might be bad when its competition time. So the handhelds are a huge waste of time for me. Similarly i can't play FPS on a handheld and i don't understand why anyone would on a handheld and not a PC or at least a console. So in many ways i don't see whats the big draw for the Vita.
I need something unique and special for my handheld, or its not going to garner much interest...
RPGs though i am fine. Those are just fine on handhelds, the change to portable from console/pc isnt that huge. But if you are always moving then of course handhelds are going to be awesome.
Depends on how much more. The short battery life is a big downside, but lately I find myself taking advantage of portability by playing in rooms of my house that are not my living room rather than places that aren't my house xD
I'm very eager to see how the Vita turns out. I very much like the idea of having my PS2 library on the go. Especially since I no longer have any means of playing PS2 games.
I have many RPG's for my DS, and I love every one of them. Most of them are exclusive to the DS, and there are a large number of them. However when it comes to the PSP side of things, looking through a list of all their games, there are maybe adozen that truly interest me. Uncharted does not interest me, any sports, racer, FPS, fighting... does not interest me. Example, every 360 exclusive game I have no interest in(Lost Odyssey was an exception and I've played it). And most that even come close to interesting me are also on the PC. However I understand other people's interest in them and the system, they just don't interest me. Like I said, I am considering buying a regular PSP for some of those games I missed that I did want, but the total number of titles was about 10. Where as I currently have 56 games for my DS. I don't commute to work, it's about a 5 minute drive for me. I don't travel very often, I only get two weeks of vacation a year right now, and I work most weekends. The extent of my away from console time is spending the night at my girlfriends, in which case I'm not likely to be playing many games. I love my portable system, I love being able to play on the toilet or around my apartment while watching tv, or a roommate is playing a game on their tv. But in the end most of my gaming time is at home. So it becomes a choice of playing, for example right now, Star Fox on my 3DS, or God of War Origins/White Knight Chronicles 2 on my PS3. So can there be great games on portable systems that I want? Yes. Nintendo usually provides me with more exclusive games that I want than Sony. Games like Uncharted Golden Abyss, not only don't interest me that much, but I also don't expect it to stay PSV exclusive anymore, not when Sony is pumping out some of their bigger PSP games for the PS3 now.Originally Posted by Bolivar
That, and I traveled a lot more when I was younger with my parents, so portable gaming was huge for me. Historically limited? I'd venture to say many portable games before were not designed for short play times, and was hardly limited. However today even Uncharted Golden Abyss is apparently designed to allow for 15 minute play sessions. If anything, portable games now are more geared towards limited play. I used to stay up at night under my blankets playing Megaman Battle Network til 3/4 in the morning trying to collect every battle chip and S rank every boss. I have more DS and GBA games than I do for any of my other systems. (PC, NES, SNES, N64, GC, PS2, PS3). My point isn't that I always prefer console gaming. But my point is that if the same game is on both, I probably won't buy the portable version since I'll be laying in my bed whether I'm playing my PS3 or if I got one, my PS Vita.
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JACKEL, I guess it's just different strokes for different folks with us. Honestly the PSP was garbage to me until maybe 2 years ago when they started releasing a lot of titles I liked. I don't know if they had a shift in department heads, but they've really had a solid 2 years with Peace Walker, Valkyria Chronicles, MotorStorm, Gran Turismo, Tactics Ogre, Gods Eater, etc.
I was never into the arcade scene; some of my favorite gaming memories were hour-long sessions of fighters for Couch Bragging Rights. So I'm a controller guy, admittedly not too immersed in the genre. That said, handhelds have traditionally had horrible D-Pads, so unless that's another portable stereotype that the Vita is shattering, I'm not expecting it to be too great.
But I'm completely bewildered by the FPS argument. Hasn't the only reason FPS not been feasible on handhelds because of inadequate controls? I think that's the entire point of the Vita's interface. I play shooters almost every day and I can't wait for the first serious CoD, Battlefield, or (gasp) Unreal Tournament that hits the Vita.
Oh sorry I didn't mean double the price for double the battery. I just meant paying extra, since price point seems to be a huge deal at the moment considering the 3DS had a major cut recently. Other than that I don't know about physical battery sizes and all that.
I'm of similar opinion with Lionx that I don't really need my games on the go, and that's just my lifestyle. That and I guess being a non-FPS player is limiting what I'll like on the system. Once more unique games come out in the genres I'm interested in, then I'll be a bit more serious in my consideration for the Vita, just like with the 3DS.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
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