^ I think a lot of people feel the same way as you guys. I've never gotten into Saints Row but I know they've kinda blown R* out of the water when it comes to the crazy rampaging which a lot of people play it for.

Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
The only leap GTAIV took though was a technological one. In terms of gameplay it was a massive leap backwards from the previous few games.
Admittedly, that's most of what I was talking about, how VC and SA iterated upon the GTA III engine. But you also have to admit that they brought in a cover system which changed the gameplay a bit; the physics, especially driving, were a lot more in-depth; if I'm not mistaken its the first game in the series to try to faithfully recreate real world landmarks; It had branching plot lines; and it entered the age of always-online consoles by introducing competitive multiplayer. We can debate how those modes stack up to the heavyweights of the genre, but I know I had a lot of fun playing some of them. I don't think you can deny how much it brought to the series. Doubting its success is an understandable position, though.

I like how you're getting all this from the words GRAND, THEFT, and AUTO in size 96 font on an otherwise blank page on their website. I eagerly await your full review of the game on November 4th.
It just seems strange considering their model last generation. 3 years from GTA III we had two full games which were considerably larger in scope than the original, in San Andreas' case, vastly larger. 3 years after GTA IV, we've had two expansions.