I hear you.

Melody of Elemia is a actually a good solid game, if a bit cliched. Took me a while to figure out how to maximize combat rewards. The only problem is some monsters are immune to regular attacks by specific characters so I had to experiment to see which special techniques worked best. I found Jack's Flash Bomb and Toxic Bomb worked really well against groups of enemies.

Qoga is hard to defend. Leaving the blatant fanservice aside, it looks and plays like a PS2 game on the PS3 platform (about FFVIII equivalent). It did have some neat supporting characters. My favorites are the dimunitive scientist Katene and his (SPOILER)childhood sweetheart Mute, who looks like a football linebacker, but still likes cute things and ribbons.