>> OMG This is going to be worse than XIII..

[Bolivar]

^ When it comes to Final Fantasy, I think we could knock every entry in the series off its axis for its story. A lot of the things you mentioned specifically apply to a lot of the games. For me, it was the game design that disappointed in XIII, but I can't say either that or story were bad enough to make the game as big of a deal as this forum makes it out to be.

[Goldenboko]

I've never been so thoroughly lost as to what my party was trying to do in any of the previous games.

EDIT: A lack of any cities and annoying menu backstory is also 100% unique to FFXIII.

[VeloZer0]

To be fair a lot of FF13 was about the party themselves not knowing what they were going to do. I thought the story was very weak, but I don't think that in particular is a huge knock against it.

[Sephiroth]

The overall storyline of Final Fantasy XIII was a mess -
...
This new game, instead of working on the faults of the previous, is throwing in a new random enemy, again with intentions I will probably not hear about or understand and is completely dropping the poorly fleshed out ideas introduced in the previous game, L'Cie, and the Fal'Cie.

I repeat:

Says you.

I love it.

And I know both stories. I have both of them. And I love both of them. Caius Ballad is one of the coolest and best Final Fantasy Antagonists ever - for me.

@GoldenBoko: Yes, that is what this forum is about. First you try to convince people and then when they are not convinced and tell you your opinion you act like that.

[Gamblet]

I repeat:

Says you.

I love it.

And I know both stories. I have both of them. And I love both of them. Caius Ballad is one of the coolest and best Final Fantasy Antagonists ever - for me.

Caius looks like a metrosexual..

[ShinGundam]

I repeat:

Says you.

I love it.

And I know both stories. I have both of them. And I love both of them. Caius Ballad is one of the coolest and best Final Fantasy Antagonists ever - for me.

Caius looks like a metrosexual..

No, by FF scale Caius looks at least more manlier than Emperor, Kefka or Kuja and I don't believe FF fans are in position to complain about metrosexual looking characters.

[Del Murder]

Caius seemed pretty badass from the amount I played.

[Gamblet]

I repeat:

Says you.

I love it.

And I know both stories. I have both of them. And I love both of them. Caius Ballad is one of the coolest and best Final Fantasy Antagonists ever - for me.

Caius looks like a metrosexual..

No, by FF scale Caius looks at least more manlier than Emperor, Kefka or Kuja and I don't believe FF fans are in position to complain about metrosexual looking characters.

Well, you got a point.

[Goldenboko]

To be fair a lot of FF13 was about the party themselves not knowing what they were going to do. I thought the story was very weak, but I don't think that in particular is a huge knock against it.

I just think theirs an issue with the plot when during a replay of it you feel no more enlightened. Even in FFVIII when I replay through I have a greater understand of events because of my knowledge of Ultimecia. Barthandelus's emergence is rather early and doesn't really shed light on the story other than "we're all being controlled by the Fal'Cie" a topic already introduced.

The overall storyline of Final Fantasy XIII was a mess -
...
This new game, instead of working on the faults of the previous, is throwing in a new random enemy, again with intentions I will probably not hear about or understand and is completely dropping the poorly fleshed out ideas introduced in the previous game, L'Cie, and the Fal'Cie.

I repeat:

Says you.

I love it.

And I know both stories. I have both of them. And I love both of them. Caius Ballad is one of the coolest and best Final Fantasy Antagonists ever - for me.

That's wonderful and if you have nothing else to say other than you like it you can stop quoting all of my posts