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    I remember playing VII when i was 10-11 years old when it came out , back then i saw the difficulty as fair "even though i was a retard it was just fair" ..

    played it again 6 days ago , i 2 shotted sephiroth 1st try
    my average party level is 60
    I didnt have KoTR and i didnt use omnislash < didnt even have a chance to use limits
    i didnt have w-summon nor master materias
    the only special materia i had was "quadra magic" which i linked with zero bahamut
    i only healed once or twice , regen was enough

    i was just spamming summons ,Cloud's "double cuts", enemy skill"shadow flare" and thats it he died ..


    Im not saying im pro or something , im saying even if i give the game to a retarded monkey he willl finish it

    was my game bugged ?, i downloaded a patched pc version

    if it IS that easy really , what a shame , The story and the battle system "materia" was the best in the series .. difficulty has ruined it

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    I think there are certain things that make the fight more difficult. The first time I beat Sephiroth it was a total cakewalk. Then my little brother came in, got mad at me for some reason, and shut off the PS2 before I could see the ending. I loaded up the game again, and he was a kajillion times harder. I had the same party members and the same materia! I'm not sure what happened, but it was a very significant difference.

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    The big difference happens if you let him use his guard thing.

    I usually just rid him of his guard and summon kotr.

    game over.


    One time I went through the game without summons, that made a big difference.

    If you want the game to be at different difficulties use the following:

    kindergarten:
    use everything

    easy:
    don't use any bonus stat items or alternatively don't use items during battle

    medium:
    don't use enemy skill or summons

    hard: don't use any stat boosting materia or items, and don't use summons or enemy skill

    extreme: same as above, but don't use any materia more than once in battle

    devastating: same as above, but no item usage during battle and no healing during battle

    Insane: same as above, but you must not use any character other than cloud unless required, and then you may only use one character

    Imbossibru: no materia

    Demons souls (insert difficulty here): use any of the rules above, but if you die, you must start the disk over.

    chuck norris: Play and beat the game without using any items, materia, limits, or the attack command, and every time you get hit you have to start the game over
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akaneko View Post
    ...., i 2 shotted sephiroth 1st try...

    ....i was just spamming summons ,Cloud's "double cuts", enemy skill"shadow flare" and thats it he died ..
    ???? Two shotted implies finishing him in two moves.

    I think there are certain things that make the fight more difficult.
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    +80,000 Max HP if you cast Knights of Round on Jenova*SYNTHESIS
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    (As compared to 80,000 he has normaly)

    I find the game is a lot more balanced if you take enemy skills and ultimate weapons out of it. Which is interesting because without a guide you probably wouldn't be able to use either of those two things all that effectively anyways.
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    One significant E.Skill to make sure that you ditch if you want a tiny difficulty boost is Big Guard. My first play-through of this game remained ignorant of it, and being in elementary school, the game was fun and I had some trouble in certain parts. Staying away from E.Skills entirely should boost the difficulty even further. Also, force yourself to attain the secret characters (Vincent and Yuffie) at the moment you are able to do so. The boss before getting Vincent is pretty difficult at that point of the game. And while getting Yuffie isn't much of a challenge, her side-quest in Wutai is some kind of ordeal if you're at a low enough level. It made me want to kill myself when I was younger and I was stuck in the middle of it.

    Don't get Final Attack materia. Don't get Knights of the Round. Don't utilize any intelligent materia pairings. It's a real smurfing shame that the minute you begin to get intelligent with this game, you've pretty much gimped the whole challenge and the only thrill is invoked from watching your party perform more actions in one turn than they are supposed to.

    I do believe there is a hack for the PC version of the game that makes it significantly harder, but I could be mistaken. Look around. I've never used it.

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    This isn't exactly an isolated problem to FF games. Take a look at your favorite platformer, you probably had quite a bit of difficulty getting through the first time. But now the game is a cakewalk to you.
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    The Game is absurdly difficult. I just lost again thanks to this freaking thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeloZer0 View Post
    This isn't exactly an isolated problem to FF games. Take a look at your favorite platformer, you probably had quite a bit of difficulty getting through the first time. But now the game is a cakewalk to you.
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    Does the level 99 character boost Sephiroth get include if you get Aeris to 99?
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    I think the difficulty is meant to stem from the status ailments he puts on your party, but again, intelligent playing using Ribbons negates that. It's FF, you're supposed to be rewarded for understanding of the system and exploiting its more powerful aspects. I guess he could have more HP but do you really want to sit through all those super novas???

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    Games that require strategies and tactics always get easier with time. It's because you're getting older, smarter and more experienced, while the AI doesn't change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Cactuar View Post
    chuck norris: Play and beat the game without using any items, materia, limits, or the attack command, and every time you get hit you have to start the game over
    ... also, you can only touch the joypad with your nose, tongue, penis or nipple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbaforever View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Cactuar View Post
    chuck norris: Play and beat the game without using any items, materia, limits, or the attack command, and every time you get hit you have to start the game over
    ... also, you can only touch the joypad with your nose, tongue, penis or nipple.
    wrong, you can only use your beard fist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Cactuar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbaforever View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Cactuar View Post
    chuck norris: Play and beat the game without using any items, materia, limits, or the attack command, and every time you get hit you have to start the game over
    ... also, you can only touch the joypad with your nose, tongue, penis or nipple.
    wrong, you can only use your beard fist.
    That surely puts all children under 15 (and most women) at an immediate disadvantage. Can a false beard be used in this circumstance?

    EDIT: I just noticed you actually put "Beard Fist" which sounds quite scary and would probably alienate the majority of the human race...

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