Haha, I agree that the romances are overdone. I only started this topic to see if anyone on these forums got the same impression. It doesn't really matter either way. I wish they'd deliver us an obvious male-male relationship in one of these games at some point though. Just a side effect of having to sit through so many cheesy straight relationships in these games, rolling my eyes at the cliche nature of them. I do think the more understated they are though, the better these relationships tend to work out. This is probably one of the biggest reasons why I liked Vanille and Fang. They had something together, but it wasn't a focus of the story or some big cheesy thing that had to be gushed over like in most stories. Yay for that anyway. I'm glad XIII-2 didn't have a romance as well, and that Noel wasn't trying to constantly get with Serah. I laughed at how put off he seemed when she fell on top of him on Atlas. He yelled "HEY!" like it was her fault. Lol. XD