No one wants to play with you, gobo!
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No one wants to play with you, gobo!
J: I will play with gobo forever. Guy is a championOriginally Posted by Freya
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You just think you're cool for hanging out with Dak, guess what? I did it first. Sloppy seconds is all you have.
What's your gamertag, you loser.
I think we can put our differences behind us... for gaming... you monster.
Seriously though everybody, Botanicscroll7, message me your EoFF name with your friend request and let's go save that galaxy.
I think we can all agree that we would rather come down with a case of screaming syphillis than play with Goldenboko. He'd probably still be better at the game than Kaycee though.
But none of you are as crap as me, right?I'll possibly get on for a weekend soonish. Not this weekend, though.
Finally got the ending, and urgh, all I have to say is (SPOILER)Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Did one company steal the idea for the other? I don't know, but it was utter trash. I mean, okay, not DE:HR bad, but still. I can see why some people are annoyed (although the extent at which some are annoyed is over the top). Of all kinds of endings, the "pick a future, push a button" kind was one I didn't want to see again so soon. Oh well, though. Overall, I really liked the game. But the ending was indeed a let-down for me. I'd still give the whole game an 8/10.
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DX:HR failed to build the ending choices up properly, and was very abrupt in the point at which it gave you the choices, but the choices still fundamentally made sense and tied in to themes established throughout the game. (Less so with the (SPOILER)Illuminati ending, but that was more because the whole thing with them was kind of shoehorned into the game; it's an overarching narrative issue more than an issue with the ending itself.)
Second, Jensen got the chance to say "smurf that trout" and do it his own way. As that video a few posts back says, Shep is not the kind of person to just accept the choices given to her if they're bad ones. She's a serious badass who has defied Sovereign, Harbinger, convinced people to overcome millennia-long grudges, and has even successfully navigated the bureaucratic mess that is the Citadel Council. Even if the options presented fundamentally made sense, Shep would be perfectly in-character saying "Nope, we're not gonna do that, we're going to do this instead. Don't like it? Then get the smurf out of our galaxy."
In short, as flawed as the last five minutes of DX:HR are, the last five minutes of ME3 are a heck of a lot worse.
The only reason I like this ending better is because, (SPOILER)button-pressing aside, they at least show you what happens afterwards. I saw Joker & EDI hooking up, Ash with them, and some geezer telling a kid about what I did. That's more than I can say for Deus Ex which had me press a button and then... nothing. We don't really know what happens! It's just a bloke talking about the philosophy behind it. Honestly, it would have made a better opening scene than an ending scene. In fact, that's exactly what they should have done with Human Revolution. Open with the little voice-over ending style, and then have a proper bloody ending. =|
Both endings sucked, at least we can agree on that.
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Have to disagree with you here since you forget that in the case of Deus Ex, we already know what happened to the world after Adam Jenson makes his choice. One of the greatest games ever made showed that world to us 12 years ago already. Whereas the general consensus on ME3 seems to be (SPOILER)that not only do you not get to see nearly enough to give any real closure considering the Normandy is now stranded (which itself makes no sense as it implies they fled the battle before the relays are destroyed), some old guy god knows where talking to some kid, and that's about it. Not to mention the explanation for everything before the choice makes no real sense to begin with, and taking choice away from the player kind of spits on what the series was trying to be about from game one.
Mind you I haven't played the game so perhaps I'm getting details wrong there, but I've yet to hear a description of the ending that doesn't sound like a far bigger slap in the face than the ending of Deus Ex:HR was given what I played in Mass Effect, and what I know of the story in the second and even the third games. Sure, the ending choice for HR comes out of nowhere, but they don't completely undermine everything that happened in the series up until that point by having it there. And at least (SPOILER)people weren't so upset by HR that they felt the need to come up with some bulltrout indoctrination dream type explanation to make it more palatable. Because apparently the ending being nothing more than a literal dream sequence and never having happened is preferable to it being the actual ending.
Just unlocked the Krogan Sentinel last night, named the little guy RAWR, because of his mighty warcry. Let me tell you, nothing is more satisfying than headbutting an Atlas, to death.
RAWR!
Vivi22: spoiler tagging the whole thing because I'm lazy like thatI haven't played Deus Ex (that is, the original game), but to me, no, they didn't give any closure in HR. And I'm not talking about throughout history, allowing the next 25 years to line up with the other game, but with the individual characters. When I play a game, I want to see what happens to my characters. A good example of a good ending is FFVIII, where you see them all having a laugh afterwards. They show what happens to each person without having any text or speech required - perfect. Instead, in HR, we have some philosophical blab and no closure whatsoever regarding the central characters. It was terrible. I don't care if it has to line up with the other game, at the very least after the philosophy lesson show us either Adam Jensen doing his thing, even if it's dying or walking away. I didn't play that game to press a button and be educated in something that I don't care about. I played the game to watch Adam Jensen's story unfold, along with the other characters and whatnot. I wanted to see how everything would play out.
In ME3, your decisions throughout the game barely affect the ending - but those decisions do still impact the final game and to some degree the ending - not much, and even less so the final part, but overall they did still impact the game. In HR, your decisions don't affect the ending at all. I don't want to have to go play a twelve year old PS2 game in order to find out what happens. I don't even know if Adam Jensen has much of a mention in the original game at all. I certainly don't expect to find out the finer details of how each central character progressed for the coming months post-button pressing.
In ME3, you at the very least know if your character is definitely dead or not. That's a good start. You at least know if some of the other characters are alive. You at least know what happens next. You get to see it. You see squadmates. You see things relevant to your story. It's not much, no, and it's nothing near what it should have been. But compared to HR, it's a plethora of relevant information. In HR, we may as well have been given a lesson on the Aztec civilization - the ending literally told us NOTHING of what happens next. Nothing. And that's a bad ending, regardless of the "Oh, but there's another game and you can see what the world is like in 25 years time!" - I don't want to know 25 years, I want to know five minutes, I want to know what happens in one day.
EDIT: http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/03/16
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I'm actually excited to get to the ending now just to see how terrible it is. I honestly can't fathom how bad a video game ending has to be to garner this much outrage.
I've seen some terrible endings to popular video games that no one complained about. So Mass Effect 3's ending really must just be genuinely out of this world terrible.
BioWare are god tier trolls.
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Yeah, they are in full PR mode right now. They have asked the fans to explain in cohesive well thought out posts what they didn't like about it and they would add their points to a list of stuff they're working on. Basically getting all these uber pissed off people to write their thoughts down ,which is known to be calming, and telling them "don't worry, YOU are actually important and we want YOUR opinion specifically
They said they're working on new content rather than a new ending, and they said that this isn't the last we've seen of Shephard. To me, that means DLC post-ending or DLC just-before-the-ending. I've no idea how it will work, really, but I still don't see them actually changing the ending itself.
EDIT: With that said, I'm not against them doing it.
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