Looks like xbox is much worse off, Sony will bounce.
Looks like xbox is much worse off, Sony will bounce.
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Perhaps I'm just mistaking game developers making more money off their PS3 sales then.Originally Posted by Mirage
No. Sony's gaming division has lost as much money as it earned by PS1 and PS2 combined, because they spent so much money keeping the PS3 alive. They haven't earned a single dollar on the PS3. The PS3 has made them lose everything they earned from everything game related before the PS3 launch.
If you add together PS3 development costs, production costs, console sales, console accessory sales, and royalties from all games sold, you get a negative value that is as big as the amount of money they made from everything related to PS1 and PS2.
And that's why i jokingly called PS3 a failed console. It's also the only current gen console I have.
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Here's a graph for it, btw :>. It was attached to an article that was well sourced, but I can't be assed to link to it, you'll just have to take my word for it. After all, why would I spread terrible lies about the only console I have?
But when searching I couldn't find anything about sony losing money on the PS3, only massive losses in other areas and losses caused by the earthquake.
No, the graph shows that the xbox is much better off. The graph clearly shows an big investment that's earning them more and more money (their total losses are becoming smaller), while for Sony it shows a big investment where their losses are becoming bigger and bigger.
As for the game developers themselves, yes, they will earn ok money on PS3 games. I doubt Sony's slice of the game-sales cake is much different from MS', and their games retail for roughly the same amount of money, and they have roughly the same amount of market penetration.
The real problem is that MS is still sitting on a crapload of money for the development of the next xbox, and Sony might not be able to keep up with them. MS could probably crush Sony entirely if they flexed their financial muscles to the max, because there is absolutely no way Sony economy could keep up if they decided to subsidize the next xbox even more than they did to the 360.
Even at 600 dollars, Sony was losing money per PS3 unit for a long time. When production costs lowered and they set the price down to 400, they still lost money per unit. At the same time, MS was keeping their units significantly below the costs of the PS3. If it wasn't for the strong brand name of "Playstation", sales would have been ridicuously low. Now imagine the next generation, when the Xbox brand name is at least as strong as Playstation, perhaps even stronger, the games look undenyably better, the hardware is technically superior, and MS can still afford to sell their Xb720s for 30% less than the PS4. On top of that, expect that MS will be able to buy significantly more console exclusives, and that Japanese developers don't give a damn about being patriotic with the Playstation anymore. All that smells like disaster for Sony to me.
Last edited by Mirage; 03-31-2012 at 07:09 PM.
everything is wrapped in gray
i'm focusing on your image
can you hear me in the void?
You can't see that Sony is trending downwards and Microsoft is trending upwards?
I can see, but fact is, MS is still negative. Also I have faith in sony.
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The fact that MS is negative doesn't mean anything. That's generally how investments work. That you have faith in Sony doesn't change the facts about how Sony is doing terrible and MS is doing good.
everything is wrapped in gray
i'm focusing on your image
can you hear me in the void?
Creativity is certainly about not being constrained by rules or accepting the restrictions that society places on us. Of course the more people break the rules, the more likely they are to be perceived as ‘mentally ill’.
“Fix the cause, not the symptom.” – Steve Maguire
(SPOILER)
Game Boy
Basic Colors
Off-White(1989)
Play It Loud Series 1995
Deep Black (1995)
Gorgeous Green (1995)
Radiant Red (1995)
Vibrant Yellow (1995)
High Tech Transparent (1995)
White (1995)
Blue (1995)
Special Edition Variants
Manchester United - red w/ logo
Kirby pink
white with Toyota logo
black with Wario logo
Game Boy Pocket
Basic Colors
Silver (1996)
Black (1996)
Green (1996)
Blue (1996)
Red (1996)
Yellow (1996)
Clear (1996)
Pink (1996 JP)
Clear Purple (1996 JP)
Limited Edition Colors
Ice Blue (1997)(Some boxes were packed with Zelda)
Extreme Green (1997)
Emerald Green (1998) (Toys R Us JP)
Clear(Ice) blue (1996 Toys R Us JP)
Silver w/ grey border (US, 1996)
Silver w/ black border (US, 1997)
Gold (Packaged w/Donkey Kong Land)(EU)
Leaf Green(Donkey Kong Edition)
Blue/Yellow (1997) blue front/yellow back. 'Swedish Limited Edition' with certificate, 3000ex made
Grey (original style)
Special Edition Variants
Nintendo power anniversary - gold w/ logo (1997)
Famitsu Limited Edition - Clear (1996)
ANA - clear blue w/ logo (Japan, 1997)
Atlus - white w/ light blue border (Japan, 1997)
Seibu Lions - blue w/ logo (Japan, 1997)
Hello Kitty/Uranai Party - pink w/ artwork (Japan, 1997)
Hello Kitty - light pink w/ artwork (Japan, 1997)
Tamagotchi - pink (Japan, 1997)
Toyota[citation needed]
Game Boy Light
Basic Colors
Gold (Japan, 1998)
Silver (Japan, 1998)
Limited Edition Colors
Toys 'R' Us - Clear Yellow (Japan, 1998)
Special Edition Variants
Astro Boy - clear w/ artwork (Japan, 1998)
Osamu Tezuka - red w/ artwork (Japan, 1998)
Famitsu F02 Event Version - clear blue w/ white border (Japan, 1998)
Famitsu F02 Mail Order Version - clear blue w/ white border (Japan, 1998)
Pokémon Center Tokyo - yellow w/ logo & artwork (Japan, 1998)
Game Boy Color
Basic Colors
Grape (1998)
Teal (1998)
Kiwi (1998)
Berry (1998)
Dandelion (1998)
Atomic Purple (1998)
Neotones Ice (AU 1998)
Fuchsia (unknown)
Limited Edition Colors
Clear Black (2000, Japan)
Clear Green (Toys 'R' Us, Japan, 2000)
Midnight Blue (Toys 'R' Us, Japan, 1999)
Ice Blue (Toys 'R' Us, Japan)
Clear Orange (Daiei, Japan, 1999)
Clear Blue (ANA)
Special Edition Variants
Mirinda - clear orange w/ logo
Yedigun - clear orange w/ logo (Turkey, 2000)
Neotones -clear green and yellow w/ Aussie flag & yellow buttons
Tommy Hilfiger - yellow w/ logo
Tsutaya - water blue w/ orange buttons (Japan, 2000)
Sakura Taisen - clear pink (2000)
Hello Kitty Special Box - light pink w/ logo (1999)
Hello Kitty Special Box 2 - light pink w/ logo (2000)
Lawson - Aqua Blue & Milky White (1999)
Takarazuka - atomic gold w/ aquatic life artwork (1999)
Jasco - clear purple w/ Mario artwork (1999)
Jasco - clear w/ Mario artwork (1999)
Cardcaptor Sakura - white & pink w/ artwork (1999)
Swedish - blue & yellow (limited to 3000 units)
Pokémon
Pokémon - yellow & blue w/ logo, artwork & colored buttons
Pokémon - silver & gold iridescent w/artwork around screen (U.S., Toys'R'Us exclusive)
Pokémon - clear blue & white w/ artwork (Hong Kong)
Pokémon - clear green & white w/ artwork (Taiwan)
Pokémon - yellow & blue w/ logo, artwork & colored buttons (Australia)
Pokémon Center - silver w/ artwork & logo (1999)
Pokémon Center - orange & blue w/ artwork & logo (1999)
Pokémon - Special Pikachu edition yellow w/ Pokémon Yellow
Game Boy Advance
Basic Colors
Teal (2001)
Indigo (2001)
Arctic (2001)
Glacier(2001)
Fuchsia (2001)
Spice (Japan,2001)
Black Guy Brown (1993)
Limited Edition Colors
Platinum/Silver (2002)
Gold (Japan,2002)
Clear Orange (Daiei, Japan, 2001)
Midnight Blue (Toys 'R' Us, Japan, 2001)
Jet/Black (Toys 'R' Us, U.S, 2003)
Red (Zellers, Canada)
Special Edition Variants
Target - Grape w/ logo (2001)
Target - Red w/ logo (2002)
Chobits - clear blue w/ logo (2002)
King of Fighters - clear black w/ logo (2002)
Toys 'R' Us -Midnight Blue w/ logo(2002)
Rockman Custom - blue (2001)
Jasco - Glacier w/ Mario artwork (2001)
Hello Kitty - pink w/ logo (2001)
Yomiuri Giants - clear purple w/ artwork (2001)
Pokémon
Pokémon Center (Latios & Latias) - blue w/ red buttons (2002)
Pokémon Center - Celebi green w/ artwork (2001)
Pokémon Center - Suicune blue w/ artwork (2001)
Pokémon Center NY - gold w/ artwork (US, 2001)
Pokémon Center NY - gold w/ artwork (JP, 2001)
Game Boy Advance SP
Basic Colors
Cobalt (2003)
Platinum (2003)
Onyx (2003)
Flame (2003)
Pearl Pink (2006)
Pearl Blue (2005)
Emerald (2004)
Graphite (2005)
Limited Edition Colors
Gold/Starlight Gold (Toys 'R' Us, Japan, 2003)
Pearl Green (Toys 'R' Us)
Lime (Target, US, 2003)
Dual Tone - Platinum & Onyx (US, 2004)
Surf Blue (US, 2005)
Pearl White (Circuit City, US, 2004)
Special Edition Variants
Famicom - red & white (Japan, 2004)
Famicom - red & white w/ gold decal (Japan, 2003)
Classic NES - grey w/ NES pattern (US and Europe, 2004)
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories - Black w/ logo (Japan, 2004)
Naruto - orange w/ white Konoha symbol and blue buttons (Japan, 2004)
Rockstar Games - black w/ logo
Rockman EXE 4 Tournament Red Sun - blue (2003)
Legend of Zelda - gold w/ Triforce symbol (Europe, 2004) - only 25,000 were made.
Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap - 24 karat gold-plated (2004)
Donkey Kong - yellow w/ logo and brown buttons (2004)
Tribal - Platinum w/ tribal tattoo symbols (US and Europe, 2004)
Boktai - red & black (2003)
Sword of Mana - Mana Blue (2003)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - white
Shrek 2 - Dual Tone Spice & Lime (2004)
China Dragon - black & red w/ artwork (China, 2004)
Mario - red & silver w/ Mario logo (2004)
Who Are You? - black w/ graffiti text (US, 2004)
Rip Curl - white w/ logo (Australia, 2004)
All Blacks - black w/ logo (New Zealand, 2003)
Gundam - red w/ Char Aznable symbol (Japan, 2003)
Metroid- red & orange w/ artwork (Japan, 2004)
SpongeBob SquarePants - yellow with pattern (Toys 'R' Us, US, 2005)
Pokémon
Charizard - Fire Red (2004)
Venusaur - Leaf Green (2004)
Groudon - Ruby (Red) (2003)
Kyogre - Sapphire (Blue) (2003)
Rayquaza - Emerald (Green) (Japan, 2004)
Torchic - Orange (Pokémon Center Japan, 2003)
Pikachu - Yellow ( 2005)
Variants of Unknown Origin
Blue Marble (Europe, Japan, 2004)
Grey Camouflage (Japan, 2004)
Green Camouflage (Japan, 2005)
Game Boy micro
Basic Colors
Silver (Worldwide [US with black faceplate] 2005)
Black (Japan and Australia [US with silver faceplate] 2005)
Purple (Japan and Australia, 2005)
Pearl Blue (Japan, 2005)
Pink (Europe, 2005)
Green (Europe and Asia, 2005)
Blue (Europe and Australia, 2005)
Red (Asia and Australia, 2005)
Special Edition Variants
20th Anniversary Edition - red w/ gold faceplate (USA, 2005)
Famicom - red w/ gold faceplate (Japan, 2005)
Pokémon - red w/ black faceplate & Pikachu silhouette (Japan, 2005)
Final Fantasy IV - blue unit with b&w Amano artwork (Japan, 2005)
Mother 3 - red w/ red, worn faceplate (Japan, 2006)
>>> What a nightmare..
>> The black orb glitters ominously... but nothing happens..
Found the fake console video
Nintendo ON HD - YouTube
Where can I re-buy a NES, SNES, Genesis and games. I know there's lucky games, any suggestions?
Creativity is certainly about not being constrained by rules or accepting the restrictions that society places on us. Of course the more people break the rules, the more likely they are to be perceived as ‘mentally ill’.
“Fix the cause, not the symptom.” – Steve Maguire
Probably eBay.
I have a bunch of Sega Saturn, NES, and SNES games I wanna sell.
Huh... do you consider all those to be failed consoles?(SPOILER)
Game Boy
Basic Colors
Off-White(1989)
Play It Loud Series 1995
Deep Black (1995)
Gorgeous Green (1995)
Radiant Red (1995)
Vibrant Yellow (1995)
High Tech Transparent (1995)
White (1995)
Blue (1995)
Special Edition Variants
Manchester United - red w/ logo
Kirby pink
white with Toyota logo
black with Wario logo
Game Boy Pocket
Basic Colors
Silver (1996)
Black (1996)
Green (1996)
Blue (1996)
Red (1996)
Yellow (1996)
Clear (1996)
Pink (1996 JP)
Clear Purple (1996 JP)
Limited Edition Colors
Ice Blue (1997)(Some boxes were packed with Zelda)
Extreme Green (1997)
Emerald Green (1998) (Toys R Us JP)
Clear(Ice) blue (1996 Toys R Us JP)
Silver w/ grey border (US, 1996)
Silver w/ black border (US, 1997)
Gold (Packaged w/Donkey Kong Land)(EU)
Leaf Green(Donkey Kong Edition)
Blue/Yellow (1997) blue front/yellow back. 'Swedish Limited Edition' with certificate, 3000ex made
Grey (original style)
Special Edition Variants
Nintendo power anniversary - gold w/ logo (1997)
Famitsu Limited Edition - Clear (1996)
ANA - clear blue w/ logo (Japan, 1997)
Atlus - white w/ light blue border (Japan, 1997)
Seibu Lions - blue w/ logo (Japan, 1997)
Hello Kitty/Uranai Party - pink w/ artwork (Japan, 1997)
Hello Kitty - light pink w/ artwork (Japan, 1997)
Tamagotchi - pink (Japan, 1997)
Toyota[citation needed]
Game Boy Light
Basic Colors
Gold (Japan, 1998)
Silver (Japan, 1998)
Limited Edition Colors
Toys 'R' Us - Clear Yellow (Japan, 1998)
Special Edition Variants
Astro Boy - clear w/ artwork (Japan, 1998)
Osamu Tezuka - red w/ artwork (Japan, 1998)
Famitsu F02 Event Version - clear blue w/ white border (Japan, 1998)
Famitsu F02 Mail Order Version - clear blue w/ white border (Japan, 1998)
Pokémon Center Tokyo - yellow w/ logo & artwork (Japan, 1998)
Game Boy Color
Basic Colors
Grape (1998)
Teal (1998)
Kiwi (1998)
Berry (1998)
Dandelion (1998)
Atomic Purple (1998)
Neotones Ice (AU 1998)
Fuchsia (unknown)
Limited Edition Colors
Clear Black (2000, Japan)
Clear Green (Toys 'R' Us, Japan, 2000)
Midnight Blue (Toys 'R' Us, Japan, 1999)
Ice Blue (Toys 'R' Us, Japan)
Clear Orange (Daiei, Japan, 1999)
Clear Blue (ANA)
Special Edition Variants
Mirinda - clear orange w/ logo
Yedigun - clear orange w/ logo (Turkey, 2000)
Neotones -clear green and yellow w/ Aussie flag & yellow buttons
Tommy Hilfiger - yellow w/ logo
Tsutaya - water blue w/ orange buttons (Japan, 2000)
Sakura Taisen - clear pink (2000)
Hello Kitty Special Box - light pink w/ logo (1999)
Hello Kitty Special Box 2 - light pink w/ logo (2000)
Lawson - Aqua Blue & Milky White (1999)
Takarazuka - atomic gold w/ aquatic life artwork (1999)
Jasco - clear purple w/ Mario artwork (1999)
Jasco - clear w/ Mario artwork (1999)
Cardcaptor Sakura - white & pink w/ artwork (1999)
Swedish - blue & yellow (limited to 3000 units)
Pokémon
Pokémon - yellow & blue w/ logo, artwork & colored buttons
Pokémon - silver & gold iridescent w/artwork around screen (U.S., Toys'R'Us exclusive)
Pokémon - clear blue & white w/ artwork (Hong Kong)
Pokémon - clear green & white w/ artwork (Taiwan)
Pokémon - yellow & blue w/ logo, artwork & colored buttons (Australia)
Pokémon Center - silver w/ artwork & logo (1999)
Pokémon Center - orange & blue w/ artwork & logo (1999)
Pokémon - Special Pikachu edition yellow w/ Pokémon Yellow
Game Boy Advance
Basic Colors
Teal (2001)
Indigo (2001)
Arctic (2001)
Glacier(2001)
Fuchsia (2001)
Spice (Japan,2001)
Black Guy Brown (1993)
Limited Edition Colors
Platinum/Silver (2002)
Gold (Japan,2002)
Clear Orange (Daiei, Japan, 2001)
Midnight Blue (Toys 'R' Us, Japan, 2001)
Jet/Black (Toys 'R' Us, U.S, 2003)
Red (Zellers, Canada)
Special Edition Variants
Target - Grape w/ logo (2001)
Target - Red w/ logo (2002)
Chobits - clear blue w/ logo (2002)
King of Fighters - clear black w/ logo (2002)
Toys 'R' Us -Midnight Blue w/ logo(2002)
Rockman Custom - blue (2001)
Jasco - Glacier w/ Mario artwork (2001)
Hello Kitty - pink w/ logo (2001)
Yomiuri Giants - clear purple w/ artwork (2001)
Pokémon
Pokémon Center (Latios & Latias) - blue w/ red buttons (2002)
Pokémon Center - Celebi green w/ artwork (2001)
Pokémon Center - Suicune blue w/ artwork (2001)
Pokémon Center NY - gold w/ artwork (US, 2001)
Pokémon Center NY - gold w/ artwork (JP, 2001)
Game Boy Advance SP
Basic Colors
Cobalt (2003)
Platinum (2003)
Onyx (2003)
Flame (2003)
Pearl Pink (2006)
Pearl Blue (2005)
Emerald (2004)
Graphite (2005)
Limited Edition Colors
Gold/Starlight Gold (Toys 'R' Us, Japan, 2003)
Pearl Green (Toys 'R' Us)
Lime (Target, US, 2003)
Dual Tone - Platinum & Onyx (US, 2004)
Surf Blue (US, 2005)
Pearl White (Circuit City, US, 2004)
Special Edition Variants
Famicom - red & white (Japan, 2004)
Famicom - red & white w/ gold decal (Japan, 2003)
Classic NES - grey w/ NES pattern (US and Europe, 2004)
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories - Black w/ logo (Japan, 2004)
Naruto - orange w/ white Konoha symbol and blue buttons (Japan, 2004)
Rockstar Games - black w/ logo
Rockman EXE 4 Tournament Red Sun - blue (2003)
Legend of Zelda - gold w/ Triforce symbol (Europe, 2004) - only 25,000 were made.
Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap - 24 karat gold-plated (2004)
Donkey Kong - yellow w/ logo and brown buttons (2004)
Tribal - Platinum w/ tribal tattoo symbols (US and Europe, 2004)
Boktai - red & black (2003)
Sword of Mana - Mana Blue (2003)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - white
Shrek 2 - Dual Tone Spice & Lime (2004)
China Dragon - black & red w/ artwork (China, 2004)
Mario - red & silver w/ Mario logo (2004)
Who Are You? - black w/ graffiti text (US, 2004)
Rip Curl - white w/ logo (Australia, 2004)
All Blacks - black w/ logo (New Zealand, 2003)
Gundam - red w/ Char Aznable symbol (Japan, 2003)
Metroid- red & orange w/ artwork (Japan, 2004)
SpongeBob SquarePants - yellow with pattern (Toys 'R' Us, US, 2005)
Pokémon
Charizard - Fire Red (2004)
Venusaur - Leaf Green (2004)
Groudon - Ruby (Red) (2003)
Kyogre - Sapphire (Blue) (2003)
Rayquaza - Emerald (Green) (Japan, 2004)
Torchic - Orange (Pokémon Center Japan, 2003)
Pikachu - Yellow ( 2005)
Variants of Unknown Origin
Blue Marble (Europe, Japan, 2004)
Grey Camouflage (Japan, 2004)
Green Camouflage (Japan, 2005)
Game Boy micro
Basic Colors
Silver (Worldwide [US with black faceplate] 2005)
Black (Japan and Australia [US with silver faceplate] 2005)
Purple (Japan and Australia, 2005)
Pearl Blue (Japan, 2005)
Pink (Europe, 2005)
Green (Europe and Asia, 2005)
Blue (Europe and Australia, 2005)
Red (Asia and Australia, 2005)
Special Edition Variants
20th Anniversary Edition - red w/ gold faceplate (USA, 2005)
Famicom - red w/ gold faceplate (Japan, 2005)
Pokémon - red w/ black faceplate & Pikachu silhouette (Japan, 2005)
Final Fantasy IV - blue unit with b&w Amano artwork (Japan, 2005)
Mother 3 - red w/ red, worn faceplate (Japan, 2006)
>>> What a nightmare..
everything is wrapped in gray
i'm focusing on your image
can you hear me in the void?
What do you have on for NES and SNES?
Half of these games ended up on GameCube, improved. Some of them ended up on other systems.You forgot Soul Calibur, Power Stone 1&2, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, and RE: Code Veronica (or at least it got those last two well before other consoles). I'm probably forgetting more too.
The Dreamcast having SoulCalibur 1 doesn't give it an advantage over every other home console that generation that got SoulCalibur 2.
The Dreamcast essentially just had a better launch than most consoles. The fact that it died so fast kept it from ever building an actual great library. If you could only play games released in the first year of a console's life, the Dreamcast would be one of the best ever. That's not the case, though.
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