Transgender beauty queen disqualified from Miss Universe pageant

[Raistlin]

Jenova Junkie, of the two of us, I definitely know more about the procedure.

Yes, you are clearly a paragon of knowledge about transsexuals.

Now who is really being immature, you who are basically trying to force me to accept that sleeping with a transsexual is the same as sleeping with a woman, or me who simply thinks it's scary the way they can look so much like natural born women.

You, unquestionably. You have demonstrated nothing in this thread except immaturity, raging bigotry, and a willful refusal to even consider that your knee-jerk distaste may not be justified -- further demonstrated by your demands that people stop talking in this thread (while... posting in this thread). My jaw actually dropped a little at the part where you claimed trans-females are "tricking" men into "unintentional gay sex." That is not only transphobic, but mind-bogglingly stupid. A troll could not have made a more ridiculous statement.

And transsexuals are not a race. They may be part of a race such as the homosexual community (sorry no sexy time, but we can still be friends) but they are not a race. are you honestly this blind?

I never said they were a race; in fact, I clearly distinguished them. Read it again. I was using something called an "analogy." My point was that refusing to sleep with a certain race may arguably be more justified than refusing to sleep with transsexuals, because at least races have a physical distinction, and physical appearance is very relevant to sexual attraction.

Let's forget MtFs for the moment. What about a person born with sexual genetic mutations, e.g., with ambiguous genitalia? That person's parents elected for a surgery to make that child physically female. Based on your reasoning, she (who had never known anything else than being a woman) should be treated like a leper, and no one would want to touch her for life -- despite all the physical parts of a woman and considering herself a woman. She is then "scary" to you, because she can "pass" as an actual human being instead of being readily seen as a freak of nature. What bulltit.

Your exclusive reliance on genetics is baseless, arbitrary, and clearly done only as an excuse to justify your predetermined bigotry. You have yet to explain why that is the only thing that should determine who is male or female. Refusing to recognize someone as a woman who considers herself a woman and physically is a woman is shameful and seriously disrespectful. Physiology and self-determination (what someone considers oneself) should be all that matters.

I don't see a point in trying to reason with you further.