Transgender beauty queen disqualified from Miss Universe pageant

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I could rep the tit outta a dozen posts here in this thread (which I did, and these people know why I repped their posts) and be done but I had my 2 cents when I saw this post and I still wanna add them. And guys, I'm aware my post is long lol get used to it but instead of doing a TL:DR on it I encourage you all to read it because I'm going to for the most part do my best to take this serious. It's not EoEo but I'm also not just going to troll HC for this.

EDIT: If you however don't want to read a long post and would rather see my comment about the topic to hand of Jenna Talackova then skip to the very end. But I will be very disappoint

The fact is, a transsexual is a man. they may resemble a woman, but however far science has come it hasn't gone far enough to change your twenty third chromosome all throughout your body. So, despite the vagina, they are still a man, which means sexual contact is tantamount to having slept with a man.

Actually they're not a man, they are a transgender, let's break this down so you understand some trans (change/transfer/move) gender (male/female) if I transfer from male column on the left to the female column to the right, I become female. Oh snap! Ok so let's say I give you some credit there, yes She was born a man and had the surgery to change gender at the age of 19. So what? She is still a female now, so what if she may not be fertile (which is something else you ludicrously implied is a pre-requisite of being a woman, what are we the Krogan during the Genophage?) she has all the other organs that counts as making her a woman. For all intents and purposes she is a woman.

Is having sexual intercourse with such a transgender woman tantamount to having slept with a man? Perhaps but then let's put it this way, why the sudden homophobia? Why do you think sleeping with a man would be so bad. Is it latent homosexuality that brings this out in you? I could personally see it. You being so scared of coming out you project your homosexuality as homophobia it would explain a few things certainly.

I have no problem with transsexuals,

Ok so this is something you put as a half sentence with a comma there, frankly you should have used a full stop it's a bold statement one that your posts are not backing up. Clearly you do have a very big issue with transgender people (note I'm going to be polite here regardless of your bigoted language) clearly this fear of transgender people is seriously affecting you and clearly have given you a big problem with them. What caused it HC? Is this just another part of your latent homosexuality where you feel disgusted because you want it because for you sleeping with a man is so terrifying you kinda wish a transgender woman would sleep with you so that you could claim you've lost your virginity in the homosexual sense?

I just wish there was some way to know beforehand, (although I doubt they look exactly right in the genitals, so that might be a clue) because I have no desire for intercourse of a homosexual variety.

Ok first of all, it's called talking to someone, getting to know them before you hop in the sack with them. I'm a fine one to talk I go out to bars and clubs and I meet girls and sleep with them same night but then do I really care if I find out that the girl I met in the club last month and slept with on a one night stand was really born a man? As long as I was pitching and she was catching it in a vagina (well I'd use a condom clearly, I might be a slut but give me some credit people it's more for effect I imply she's catching it in her vagina) then frankly why should I have a problem?

I'm also going to bust your bubble from the brackets where you wish they'd look wrong downstairs, clearly you haven't seen many vaginas before. Every woman on this forum will likely have a different vagina if they all took photos of theirs and could post them without breaching the forums rules (and were of course willing to do so) then no 2 would be the same. The regulated standardized perfect vaginas you see in porn (and we all know you watch lots of this to try and convince yourself you are straight) are surgically enhanced/repaired/changed.

In fact, I've met several transgender woman post op. I also got to see one of them naked because I was openly curious when talking with her and I was polite about it too, she graciously decided to accommodate my curiosity. I can say without a doubt or hesitation her vagina looked perfect, in fact it looked better than some of the vaginas I've seen on top quality porn actresses. The only difference between her vagina and other vaginas I've seen (which I guarantee you is already more than you can ever hope to see in your lifetime) on "naturally born females" is that whilst she had all the right parts she could not naturally become wet during sexual excitement. To have sexual intercourse with a man, she has to use lubrication.

Now I know you're thinking that's your sign if you're with a woman and she breaks out the lube run a mile! I'm going to burst that bubble too. Some of the girls I've known and slept with in particular those who have had relationships with abusive spouse or those who have been subjected to rape (which sadly is a higher number of women then I'd like to say had to go through such horrible experiences) often find it hard to become naturally wet too even if they want sex with someone. Therefore they will usually have in their homes lubricant of some sort to make it easier to sleep with the men they want to sleep with. Now, there are a couple of responses that you could say to that previous sentence or statement, all of them are hurtful, insensitive and I really sincerely advise you to not utter them not so much because you'd probably get banned for doing something as stupid as labelling a rape victim as "damaged goods" so much as you're likely to end up with a large group of angry women from this forum on your back, and honestly that tit scares the crap outta me so just don't go there.

So in regards to the idea that there would be some way to tell, there really isn't unless you're going to run away from every woman who has a perfect vagina and wishes to use lubricant fluid. Though of course if she's got perfectly shaped D - DD boobs and a perfectly shaped vagina and is bringing out a bottle of lube either you're going to be turning down sex with a transgender or you're going to be missing out on the wildest, wettest, best sex of your life with a woman who could literally be a pornstar

They are still people, they still should have all their rights, but to be honest, it feels like they are lying to the world and could be (and are) tricking men into having unitentional gay sex. If they could completely change their genetics, that may be a different thing, I don't know, and there is no point pondering it considering science can't do that yet.

They should still have all their rights? How about their right to be respected by others? How about their right to be treated as normal women? You've stomped pretty clearly in this thread over both of those rights. I'd love to hear you defend this action to the rest of us.

They could be (and are) tricking men in to having unintentional gay sex.

What the smurf? Seriously dafuq did I just read? somebody please slap me right now I'm not quite believing my eyes, if I could face palm so hard I knocked the sun outta it's gavity well incinerating mercury and venus and turning earth in to a living hell and kick-starting the Martian life-cycle I would be doing this right now. I've stated already that I have met several transgender women, none of them have ever lied about it. None of them have ever tried to "trick me in to having unintentional homosexual sex" I have been offered sex by several of them, but they never tried to trick me. In fact unlike some "naturally born females" I know who I have openly stated I would never sleep with, who have later tried getting me drunk to sleep with me they have always respected the fact that no means no. One of them told me a tragic story once and it was her story. Several of the straight guys she had gotten to know in her post op life as friends had actually raped her because they figured she wasn't a real woman so it didn't count as rape, she had gone to the police about it and yet getting the police to take her seriously was because of the discriminating views of officers involved with the case towards transgender women was difficult so difficult in fact she ended up giving up and the men walked. These police officers who let her down so badly, well they were just like you. I think the people involved there are seriously despicable creatures. I'm not just talking about the raping bastards who did those horrible crimes to her, I'm talking about the police officers involved too. So why don't you wake up and get some real education here, before sprouting bulltit like the quote above because otherwise you're no better than a raping asshole or a prick of a police officer who failed to do anything to stop it.

Yes there is a difference. One is a man pretending to be a female, the other is a female.

No, one is merely born a female, the other had surgery to change to being a female. There is no men pretending to be women because there are no longer any men involved, you're getting confused with transvestites who are men who like to dress as women, many of whom are not pre-op transgenders but merely men who get a sexual buzz outta wearing womens clothing. You're just a bigot and a twat and deserve frankly a tit kicking.

EDIT: On the topic of Jenna Talackova, I actually agree with Dan and Julian I totally would hit that! She's amazingly good looking and good luck to her in the Miss Universe Canada competition. However, I feel if she does win it'll be tarnished because people will be finding it hard to vote against her as they will believe voting against her will mean they're a bigot too.