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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    I'd love to see what Nomura's 'attempt' to top FFVII will be. I'm sure it won't be a bad game, but it's an ambitious goal to try and top such a legend. FFVII's popularity was more than just the game, it was about the moment as well. It will be tough to reproduce that.
    But he wasn't talking about sales or popularity either, Nomura commented on the idea of remaking VII for 15th anniversary and then he commented that he wants the newer FF to surpass classicFFin general regardless who will produce or direct over the game. Of course, it won't be easy not because classic FF is invincible but because the basics of making an JRPG has changed a lot, Today when you hire a quests designer he won't make "Ultima weapon" quest, "Finding Yuffie", "Tournament" instead he will make "kill x amount and collect x amount." that is pretty much the current standard quests for JRPGs.

    Anyway, I wish them the best luck my favorite era were PS1 era and i would love to play a new powerhouse FF with all PS1 era qualities and more than i want to play remake of anything.

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    That's a stupid standard and a pathetic excuse for making a subpar game. SE had people who designed more involving quests in the past. Where are they now? If you hire a quest designer and that's the only quests he can make then you need to fire him and then fire your recruiters as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
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    XV is a multiple of 3. And I think we all know what that means
    It doesn't mean anything. III was not the one of the best FFs, VII was not a multiple of 3, IX was more nostalgic than pure awesome, the only reason XII rocked harder than XI was because XI was strictly an online game. The only possible reason XV would rock is because XIV, another online only game, failed miserably.
    Oh, it does mean something.

    While I largely prefer VII over III, you have to admit III was very different from what was before. True, nowadays it seems mundane, but it was the first with a job system, first FF with this huge, layered world, as well as the first to try to implement some thought-provoking elements - the villain is not so much evil as just a force of nature, we also have this controversial to this day matter of Xande's mortality.

    VI was the first one to try to have a more theatrical approach - this is what paved way for VII's cinematical approach to storytelling. It was also stylistically different from the past games. So I have to say, while VII brought FF to the mainstream, were it not for the features VI revolutionized, it might have been a totally different game. Also, I believe I do not have to speak of the awesomeness of VI.

    IX was, yet again, different. It was a throwback to the old games, while at the same time, for those who started with VII, it was something completely new. True, nostaligia is the main source of its awesomeness, but it is very different compared to VII and VIII.

    And then we have XII. One of the most controversial entries in the series. This one took a lot of risks, being totally different from X and having a completely revamped battle system.

    Bottom line is, I think that, with the last entries of a generation, the creators go all out and take great risks, in order to make something completely different from the rest of the generation. For the most part, it works pretty darn well - as evidenced by III and VI, future installments build on the changes implemented. With that said, I think these are the games that changed the series the most, and for the better. They are the most awesome to me, personally, and I know this is not objective, but I also know that a lot of the members of these boards agree with me.

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    I think the new FF needs to take some inspiration from the past. It's clear the direction the series has gone recently is not a welcome one.

    I for one would love to see a game re-introduce pre-rendered backgrounds. This may seem like a step back to some but they could create so many more fantastic locations without having to map them all in 3D. As long as it is well-drawn and has better storyline, I don't think there would be too many complaints with them taking this direction.

    It could be a little side project for SE which I think could please a lot of hard core fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinGundam View Post
    Today when you hire a quests designer he won't make "Ultima weapon" quest, "Finding Yuffie", "Tournament" instead he will make "kill x amount and collect x amount."
    This is the era of online gaming

    And Finn: While it may be true that those titles are revolutionary, that in itself does not necessarily make them awesome. But I do hope Squeal will take XV as an opportunity to explore a decent concept as opposed to an absurd one
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    >>> Nomura think that FF7 is the best?... man, FF7 is not the best and it was already surpassed long time ago by FF9 and probably FF10..
    >> The black orb glitters ominously... but nothing happens..

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    I did like final fantasy 9 and 10. 9 was one of my favorites because it went back to the old school rpg with castles and airships all of that stuff. I am a old school rpg gamer just my taste of style of games. As for seven being the best I am not sure it was but it was a great game when it came out. I think if square enix came out with a game like that today it was make everything okay again or to that caliber of a game would be sweet. Not sure if they can do it considering the track record of late with the games they have been coming out only time will tell.

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