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    Question Valiant Saga: Final Fantasy (Another sequel?)

    Saw this posted on a gamenews website:



    Real? Fake?

    Approve? Disapprove? Want FF XV or Versus XIII instead?
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    Anything with Ivalice sounds good to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamblet View Post
    Anything with Ivalice sounds good to me.


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    It is obviously Fake.

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    What's with the windings symbols?
    everything is wrapped in gray
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    I don't think valuable information on a title like this would be put out in a simple image with no press release or other information coming directly from the company. The concept is a nice thought.
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    It's probably fake but then again, Hiroyuki Itou (FFXII's director) hasn't been working on anything significant since FFXII International. It's possibly a leak from a planned press confernece that was to be held in the coming months or at E3. Still, the plot hits too many elements of the Ivalice storyline, it basically sounds too good to be true because the story sounds like it would tie up all the connections between XII, Tactics, and Vagrant Story. So that's where I find it really implausible to be real. It sounds like a juicy fanfiction story by an avid Ivalice fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    It's probably fake but then again, Hiroyuki Itou (FFXII's director) hasn't been working on anything significant since FFXII International. It's possibly a leak from a planned press confernece that was to be held in the coming months or at E3. Still, the plot hits too many elements of the Ivalice storyline, it basically sounds too good to be true because the story sounds like it would tie up all the connections between XII, Tactics, and Vagrant Story. So that's where I find it really implausible to be real. It sounds like a juicy fanfiction story by an avid Ivalice fan.
    He is making an IOS game called Guardian Cross.

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    @ Gamblet: Seconded.

    @ ShinGundam: Also seconded.

    @ Mirage: They're wingdings. But seconded anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    1) plot hits too many elements of the Ivalice storyline... 2) too good to be true... 3) would tie up all the connections between XII, Tactics, and Vagrant Story... 4) implausible... 5) sounds like a juicy fanfiction...
    1), 2), 3), & 4) agreed, Square Enix hasn't done well in the area of reliable continuity. Maybe if Nomura was in charge?

    5)
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

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    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinGundam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    It's probably fake but then again, Hiroyuki Itou (FFXII's director) hasn't been working on anything significant since FFXII International. It's possibly a leak from a planned press confernece that was to be held in the coming months or at E3. Still, the plot hits too many elements of the Ivalice storyline, it basically sounds too good to be true because the story sounds like it would tie up all the connections between XII, Tactics, and Vagrant Story. So that's where I find it really implausible to be real. It sounds like a juicy fanfiction story by an avid Ivalice fan.
    He is making an IOS game called Guardian Cross.
    That's why I said he hasn't worked on anything significant.

    The man should be put in charge of FFXV and then SE could hire Soraya Saga(FFVI/Xenogears) and Masato Kato(Chrono series/ FFVII) to write the plot and scenario. Alas, tis but a fantasy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ShinGundam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    It's probably fake but then again, Hiroyuki Itou (FFXII's director) hasn't been working on anything significant since FFXII International. It's possibly a leak from a planned press confernece that was to be held in the coming months or at E3. Still, the plot hits too many elements of the Ivalice storyline, it basically sounds too good to be true because the story sounds like it would tie up all the connections between XII, Tactics, and Vagrant Story. So that's where I find it really implausible to be real. It sounds like a juicy fanfiction story by an avid Ivalice fan.
    He is making an IOS game called Guardian Cross.
    That's why I said he hasn't worked on anything significant.

    The man should be put in charge of FFXV and then SE could hire Soraya Saga(FFVI/Xenogears) and Masato Kato(Chrono series/ FFVII) to write the plot and scenario. Alas, tis but a fantasy...
    Play FF11 or FF14 ( FF14 got some cameo from Xeno i don't know why and) and battles are as close as it could be to ADB.

    For FFXV, hmm i don't know and i don't think these guys or even Sakaguchi or Matsuno will change anything at all to be honest.

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    I think they could. Sakaguchi has resisted the MMO hybrid model that other people have tried with the genre over at Mistwalker, hell even SE tried to move away with XIII. Squenix issue is that they've allowed Kitase Jr. (Motomu Toriyama) to keep pushing the series into interactive film territory. One of the things that always held Kitase and Sakaguchi's desperate attempts at making the games into cutscene extravaganza was always Hiroyuki Ito who is about the only guy at SE who believes people should be playing a game and understands the concept that sitting in your chair and watching cutscenes between dungeons is not an immersive experience. Their cinematic vision, combined with his fundamental game design philosophy as well as some good writing by some well loved veterans of the genre like Kato and Saga to help some of SE's less experienced writing staff; and I feel SE could make an FF that blow everyone's mind.

    SE has two problems imho.

    (1) The current team lacks real experience making hit games due to lack of guidance from older staff members. From what I've gathered, once you hit executive producer, status, you're basically dealing with upper corporate more than the design team. Apparently Ito turned down a promotion to executive producer because it would have kept him from being able to really work on the design part of games, so I now question what Kitase has really been bringing to the series since FFX.

    (2) They lack balance. Its pretty easy to spot each of the designers "style" when they work on a game. Sakaguchi likes to keep things somewhat comical and lighthearted, Kitase and Toriyama likes big cinematic set-pieces and drama. Nomura is a shameless subscriber to the Rule of Cool, Ito is heavy on game mechanics and gameplay as the main show, and Matsuno is heavy on topics of history, ethics, and philosophy. They each bring something unique but I feel problems arise when you have too many of one type, which is why XII fell short for many fans. I mean I love Ito, but the man's philosophy about gameplay trumping everything leaves those who got in the series for the cool plots and characters a bit cold. Had Matsuno stayed behind to guide the writing team, it may have been the game every fan would have loved. Toriyama (FFXIII) and Kitase (FFVIII) learned the hard way what happens if you don't have a person working on the gameplay side (Ito) to keep it balanced with all the cool designs and cutscenes. Even Sakaguchi is learning the hard way with Mistwalker what it's like to create games without the strong support of other highly talented designers that have scattered since the merger.

    I'm not saying that in order for FF to retake its crown it needs Sakaguchi or Matsuno, rather SE needs to start pulling their strengths together. I mean Ito still works at SE, and god know Toriyama's more visual/story focused style would balance out Ito's gameplay centric view, and vice versa. I'm terribly surprised they have never really worked together on former projects. After that its just a matter of finding a new strong writer to tell their games story. This is probably the trickiest part because I feel this is where SE has really fallen short. Still, its not like they can't hire a 3rd party writer, I mean they still commission Nojima to write for them and he hasn't worked at SE for years, just once again, I feel Nojima needs someone else to balance him out. His plots get overly convulated for no good reason if he's left to his own devices. His best stories are usually teams efforts (FFVII and KH1). I feel this would be a great start for revitalizing the series, and the thing is, it can be easily done. I just don't know why SE hasn't done it yet.

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    If the "lone mercenary" is Balthier, I'm in.



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    I hope it's true, but it reads fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    What's with the windings symbols?
    Can't tell if serious:

    Those are the zodiac signs XD Remember in FFT the Zodiacs were a big deal? I think that's what they're referencing.


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