To me final fantasy 10 is the last game that truly felt like a final fantasy game. I tried 12 and it was such a major departure of what I expected a final fantasy game to be like. It just did not feel right at all. I knew once sakaguchi san left whatever your feelings are about him it was him who created the series in the first place. Without him we would not be talking about this series in the first place. It was his vision and story telling that really got me playing all the up to 10. I have not had a chance to play both final fantasy 13 games so I cannot comment on those games. I think once he left everything started to crumble and I think square should have stopped making final fantasy games and just start a new series. I cannot come up with one series that has gone on this long. It seems that square is trying new things and it is not their best work. To me ff 10 was the last game that actually felt worthy of having the final fantasy name attached to the game. I know some people might disagree with me but that is what I have felt for awhile. Lets discuss this.