Quote Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke View Post
You use that word sacrifice again when it's quite clear he gave nothing up. He knew there was a heaven waiting for him, he knew he was God. There are people who fight and die in wars to protect the innocent who dont know there is a heaven waiting for them, that is a sacrifice. God can conjur up something from nothing and give it to anyone he wants, anything he gives or creates is not a sacrifice, there are people who give up everything they have to help the few people they can, that is a sacrifice. Tell me when has God/Jesus ever sacrificed anything?
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
This means that God and His authority are of the same eseence. He falls back on His own perfection. This is the cost of an omnipotent being, because an omnipotent being cannot seize to be perfect.
The only way man could live is if there was a perfect sacrifice. Notice the symmetry., He had to pay for giving mercy because that in itself is a flaw. His atonement for us was also for Himself.
You don't learn these things in Bible school, but it is nonetheless true.

Furthermore, you obviously do not know the *actual* punishment He took. Ever seen Passion of the Christ? Well, that was only 30% of what He actually endured, biblically. In fact, some argue that it is impossible for a person to endure such without dying during it.