If it wasn't obvious before that I don't watch G4, it is now. Thanks.
Both shows exist. The Japanese one is just better.
I watched it on TV when they showed their top 100, and the top 10 was like half Zelda, then Bioshock, and Mario.
No time for "Dilly-Dallying" or "Shilly-Shallying."
Props go to the one and only, Proxy, for the signature.
I hate lists like this. Pac-man? Tetris? Asteroids? Sure, they're good gimes, but are the the best videogames of all time? No. Can you sit and play them for hours, days and weeks at a time and still gain enjoyment out of it? No. Just because they were revolutionary at the time, doesn't make them the best of all time. The Beatles helped revolutionise music, but it doesn't make them any good!
Glad to see, unlike other lists, the top 20 only had like four games from the last ten years, but I'm still not sure if Bioshock, Uncharted 2, Portal, and Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare deserve to be there.
Lastly, we need to kill Goldeneye's status as an exemplary star of quality. If you pick up Tetris for the NES, you can easily have a blast. If you pick up Goldeneye, it very much depends on who you're playing it with. The game was one of the first console FPS titles done well, but it would still be many years before the genre would be done right.
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. I disagree with at least 50% of the list, but "Best anything" lists are subjective, very nearly arbitrary, and should be taken as such. There are so many factors that go into deciding something like this that the only way we will ever be able to approach an objective truth is if Skynet tells us.
IMO Pong and Tetris would be on my list. Simple enjoyable games that led to other, more complex, games.
All I know though is that no top 100 games of all time list will ever be perfect until it has 5 SNES games in the top 5.
While it is true that "Best Anything" lists are arbitrary, it is still possible to get things wrong. Look no further than the fact that only one FF game made the list, and it wasn't even Top 20. How can they completely disregard FF4, FF6, or even FF10?
Positioning is arbitrary, I'll grant you that. But when talking about video games, certain ones have to be on every single list. G4 just threw a dart at a board and said, "Okay, we'll put that one in."
Why? Says who?
I certainly think that there are certain games that should be on every list, but it's impossible to be entirely impartial. Personal sentiment (or anti-sentiment) factors in to these decisions. So it's silly to be judgmental about it.
What's the thread title again? "G4's Top 100..."
If G4 was trying to make the one list to end all lists, I might have a problem, but they just make a list for fun, for the hell of it. In any case, the point of these kinds of lists, in this kind of context, is simply to cover a lot of ground and usually has a lot more to do with how influential a game is (both to gamers and developers alike) than how "fun" it is.
chionos, I think most of us understand that these lists are subjective. The point of them is not to create some ultimate list of top games, but to get other people to discuss the choices made. We critique these lists because it's fun to do so.
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"most of us" might be stretching it. I recognize that some people aren't ignorant of the context, but then other people act like G4 or whatever other group has made the list are stupid or evil. Maybe it's just a result of the internet's tendency to make everyone into masters of hyperbole.
In any case, it's fun to critique lists, yes. It's also fun to critique people.
The difference is, lists don't have feelings.
I would say 'most of us at this forum' is not stretching it. We're mostly pretty smart here. Mostly.![]()
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