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PS: Fergie shared your view on Roy being a Liverpool success.
Pretty sure he says that about every new manager of a big club.
You mean like the future manager of Manchester United FC...?

Now, spare me your ad hominem "urrr it's because you support Liverpool!" gibberish, because, well, those in glass houses first of all re: your views on Rafa Benitez, but also because I'm defending the honour of a team I hate more than any other. Including Everton! Now, look, I'm not saying Moyes is a trout manager. He's done a good job at Everton. But let me put it this way.

  • Does he have experience of the pressures of managing a huge club - media, fans, etc?
  • Does he have experience of winning trophies?
  • Does he have experience of European football and playing against the biggest clubs in the world on huge nights?
  • Does he have experience of the pressures of being involved in a title race?
  • He may have expierience of buying good footballers at reduced amounts (although for the record, 2 of his 3 biggest signings were Yakubu and Bilyatindinov!) but does he have experience of buying world class footballers for world class fees?
  • Does he have experience of managing world class players with huge egos? (you may note his falling out with Mr Wayne Rooney!)



No to every single one. And that's why Moyes is not suited for a monstrously huge club like Man United. You can say"well we won't know if he can do these things unless he tries!" if you want but we also don't know if Neil Warnock can do these things until he tries, so...

A final word, there's a reason why he has never won at Anfield. Because he sits 11 men behind the ball and plays for the draw. That's why. It works for Everton, sure, and it helps them punch above their weight. Do you honestly think that trout will fly at Manchester United? Do you really think that is going to win titles? Changing a managerial philosophy isn't simply a matter of clicking a few tactics buttons on football manager.

I smurfing hate United with a passion and it sickens me to say this, but they are too good for Moyes.
Just read something on BBC and will mention that Klopp, someone you mentioned for the role, had a worse record than Moyes did before Dortmund took him on. Why him over Moyes? No matter who we go with, it's a massive gamble. Dan's right on that regard. Again, I'm not saying I'll be gutted if we get Mourinho or Klopp or anyone, they're great. But to say Moyes has nothing on them is naive. You conveniently failed to respond to my query regarding whether there is anyone out there who can do so well with so little for such a long time. If he actually has money, who's to say he won't do even better? Seems to me the guy can find good players, create good players and develop good players from youth. He knows the proper tactics to get the points he needs to shoot above his club's financial weight, he knows British football, he's not going to run off to another country at the drop of a hat. Until you give a Klopp a shot at a big club, we'll never know what he's like at a big club. He's currently at a Europa club, and I'd love to see him in a Champions League club.

Moyes certainly won't sit 11 men behind the ball with United unless he wants to get the sack.

EDIT: Dude, Ferguson has a falling out with a Mr. Wayne Rooney. It's not like that's a hard thing for a manager to do. xD