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    My fav game. Here goes, I'll keep it short:

    Things at first glance:
    Pacing is amazing. Environments and the world have more vibe than anything I've ever experienced in a game. Gameplay grows deeper and deeper as you progress. Characters feel natural and a lot of them (look past the Tidus-hate, story-wise he is not the main character at all) have very mature character growth.

    Deeper stuff:
    The amount & depth of modern day themes this game handles is insane: racism, religion, indoctrination, ruling the masses by ignorance, death, war, value of life, mankind and it's right/wrong use of technology.

    That said, I would even go that far to say this game is on the same page as 1984 is.
    SpoilerI think it's even better.

    That's what makes this game time-less. It's a masterpiece. Literature. A reflection of issues in our world, presented in a way that is neutral while inviting you to make up your own mind.
    But you have to listen to Tidus talk and that makes me want to shoot myself! Maybe I should play the game on mute with subtitles?
    Concerning what Pete said: pretty much why I always come back to this, ten years later.

    Concerning Tidus' so-called whining... other people have said it best about how crazy it must have been to be uprooted from your world and your life, to be placed in a different one where you know nothing, and everyone you've ever loved and relied on is gone. I'd whine too.
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    it's not like the vocabulary, it's the voice. all of their voices. I don't want voices!

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    You nitpickin nancy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    it's not like the vocabulary, it's the voice. all of their voices. I don't want voices!
    Then mute it.

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    Maybe in the HD remake they can give us an option for no voices!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    it's not like the vocabulary, it's the voice. all of their voices. I don't want voices!
    Then mute it.
    I'd rather have a skip button. I want to PLAY the GAME. That's why I bought this GAME. Actually I'm proud of the fact I've never bought this game, that being the reason why. Unskippable cutscenes (or ones where the text crawls too slowly) are a massive dealbreaker to me.

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    If you can't put up with pauses due to translation in speech in a game with one of the richest storytelling experiences I've ever had, you don't deserve to play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReloadPsi View Post

    I'd rather have a skip button. I want to PLAY the GAME. That's why I bought this GAME. Actually I'm proud of the fact I've never bought this game, that being the reason why. Unskippable cutscenes (or ones where the text crawls too slowly) are a massive dealbreaker to me.
    OK, fair enough... but it's really more than just a game, kind of like the Metal Gear Solid Series. It's pushing the boundaries. It's more than just running around and pressing a bunch of buttons. It's about what you can take from it on an emotional level given the large number of subjects it covers. At least this is true for me.
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    Metal Gear lets you skip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    If you can't put up with pauses due to translation in speech in a game with one of the richest storytelling experiences I've ever had, you don't deserve to play it.
    You're outnumbered by the people who bitched me out for "not giving it a chance" I'm afraid, so I had to satisfy them (and prove them wrong that I "couldn't give it a chance") by playing it, which gave me the right to say anything I wanted about it. And it isn't a rich storytelling experience. The plot is predictable (I saw every twist coming a mile away because my IQ needs to be spoken in more than one syllable) the characters are annoying and even when the voice acting isn't full of pauses I don't want to hear it anyway. I want to smurfing skip it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nebulance View Post
    Concerning Tidus' so-called whining... other people have said it best about how crazy it must have been to be uprooted from your world and your life, to be placed in a different one where you know nothing, and everyone you've ever loved and relied on is gone. I'd whine too.
    If I were directing a game with that character in, I wouldn't be sadistic enough to cast such a whiny voice actor. I at least found his Japanese voice far more tolerable, if only because I had no idea what he was saying.
    Last edited by ReloadPsi; 08-23-2012 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReloadPsi View Post
    Metal Gear lets you skip.
    Yes, it does. But it really doesn't make sense to skip it, meaning don't expect to have any idea what's going on if you skip it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReloadPsi View Post
    You're outnumbered by the people who bitched me out for "not giving it a chance" I'm afraid, so I had to satisfy them (and prove them wrong that I "couldn't give it a chance") by playing it, which gave me the right to say anything I wanted about it. And it isn't a rich storytelling experience. The plot is predictable (I saw every twist coming a mile away because my IQ needs to be spoken in more than one syllable) the characters are annoying and even when the voice acting isn't full of pauses I don't want to hear it anyway. I want to smurfing skip it.
    So you're claiming you're more intelligent than the rest of us because we enjoy the game? That's real mature.

    It's like me denouncing your taste in music because I don't like what you listen to. For instance, I thoroughly do not enjoy rap music. But I refuse to sit here and criticize someone because they connect with it. It's art and it speaks to the person and gets them through their struggles, etc.

    So, no I don't agree with your stance about getting so caught up in Tidus' voice and feeling the need to skip the scenes. But I won't tell you you're an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReloadPsi View Post
    You're outnumbered by the people who bitched me out for "not giving it a chance" I'm afraid, so I had to satisfy them (and prove them wrong that I "couldn't give it a chance") by playing it, which gave me the right to say anything I wanted about it. And it isn't a rich storytelling experience. The plot is predictable (I saw every twist coming a mile away because my IQ needs to be spoken in more than one syllable) the characters are annoying and even when the voice acting isn't full of pauses I don't want to hear it anyway. I want to smurfing skip it.
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    You've misspelled that, Hippo.
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    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

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    Final Fantasy X has it's pros and cons. It's not as good as Final Fantasy IX imo and was a bit of a step backwards; but it does have it's highlights.

    Pros > Good battle system, controllable summons, awesome music in parts, storyline goes to light to pretty much deep-thought provoking- and emotional. Auron, Lulu and Rikku.

    Cons > Too linear, dreadful voice acting, dreadful villian compared to Kefka, Sephiroth and Kuja.

    However I don't think that Final Fantasy VII is the most overated Final Fantasy, I think that title belongs to Final Fantasy X because it's usually crowned as a prefection golden crown of a RPG when it has flaws glore. I don't hate FF X though.


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    I actually really liked seymour as a boss. That guy was a bitch. He was all "i want Yuna ^_^ JUST KIDDING I WANT TO BE EVIL" you kill him and he KEEPS COMING BACK. Like wtf dude, die already. I ended up loathing him the first time I played. Sin never seemed like the big baddie to me. In fact I don't consider FFX to have a big iconic baddie. But I think that was the point. It wasn't so much about oh the party against this baddie. It was the party against ideals and the world they knew and grew up with. That made it seem much more thoughtful than previous incarnations. It was a different approach to the FF series. They all make you think but this one took a different approach to how they did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebulance View Post
    So you're claiming you're more intelligent than the rest of us because we enjoy the game? That's real mature.

    It's like me denouncing your taste in music because I don't like what you listen to. For instance, I thoroughly do not enjoy rap music. But I refuse to sit here and criticize someone because they connect with it. It's art and it speaks to the person and gets them through their struggles, etc.
    No, I'm just saying there were no good surprises in the plot and it didn't take much to see them all coming such as they were. Pardon my use of unpleasantness there, but what I meant was that I am not stupid and as such don't like to have my intelligence insulted (but if you really wanna see how I feel about that, ask me about the film Signs someday). As for skipping, I mean a second time naturally. Once you've played through a Metal Gear enough times you WILL want to skip cutscenes so you can get back to more full-contact sneaking action. The lack of skippability is why I'm never playing this game again because I already know the plot and don't want to waste the time. Again, I wouldn't even have played it at all if tons of people at the time hadn't browbeat me into it and I hadn't been 'spergy enough to care what they thought, but I have so I have every right to point out its flaws. If you can't disprove them...

    As for how I could've wanted to skip everything: I ended up playing this game twice to shut people up, and in the meantime had seen a fair few other friends play through it, so yeah, I'd seen those craply dubbed cutscenes plen-tee of times. FFXII did a much better job. Hell, Metal Gear did a better job in 1998. There were no excuses.
    Last edited by ReloadPsi; 08-24-2012 at 12:23 PM.

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