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    I didn't think it could be more obvious that Pheonix Downs can't revive dead people. They have never once been used or mentioned as successful in that manner in any scripted part in the series.

    Obviously Cloud knows way more about how recovery items work in the FF7 world than we do. Not to mention Aries had all the time in the world to bleed out while they fought Jenova.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke View Post
    I think its sensible that Phoenix Down would only revive one from KO rather than from death
    blackmage has it. Phoenix Downs are to revive one from being knocked out. I don't think there's an item or spell that can fix "sword through abdomen."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Srh
    I don't think there's an item or spell that can fix "sword through abdomen."
    Pretty sure I saw that in the Materia list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G13 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Srh
    I don't think there's an item or spell that can fix "sword through abdomen."
    Pretty sure I saw that in the Materia list!
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    What always bothered me more was, Cloud's STANDING in the lake, and like two seconds later she's floating deep down to the bottom.

    wtf
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    Jinx you are absolutely smurfing insane. Never change.

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    Awesome observation.
    Quote Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke View Post
    I think its sensible that Phoenix Down would only revive one from KO rather than from death

    However I dont understand why they didnt try a SOFT on RedXIII's dad
    Zangan never bothered using a Phoenix Down on Tifa when she was incapacitated. I would assume being KO'd is not as bad as being comatose apparently (they didn't try curing Cloud with items or magic either, maybe because he didn't bother with Aeris).

    I could swear Bugenhagen did tell us it had been tried. Seto just be worse off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Cactuar View Post
    It's been said before, it'll be said again, Pheonix down, and indeed all battle items, are just for use in battle. I don't know about you, but I've never seen anyone use an item in a cutscene.
    Retarded statement. Characters KO'd in battle remain KO'd outside of battle, so a character left standing (outside of battle) must use Phoenix Downs on them before they can even be healed by a Tent. Maybe you don't know this because you never finish a battle with KO'd party members or you always head to the nearest town inn. Only attack items are reserved for battle. In later games, it's possible for a member to remain petrified after battle and you can still use a soft outside of battle to cure them.


    Dropping the seriousness. Cloud didn't revive Aeris because he was jealous that Sephiroth was the first to "penetrate" her. Ooh snap....!
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    I don't think there was really any item or spell to cure the fact that Cloud was a complete nutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Cactuar View Post
    Magic. Not items
    No, they tried both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs View Post
    What always bothered me more was, Cloud's STANDING in the lake, and like two seconds later she's floating deep down to the bottom.

    wtf
    Ever since I noticed that, I always picture cloud kicking his feet cartoonishly fast.
    Last edited by Sephex; 08-22-2012 at 07:39 PM.

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    Fools! (Striding-)Cloud can walk on water.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    he's doing the egg beater! which is a step up from doing the aeris beater in the temple of the ancients ho ho ho

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    Clearly there was a little current that swept her down the rapidly descending lake floor.

    They see me rolling. They hating, patrolling.
    Trying to catch me riding dirty.


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    Cloud was still nuts at this point, so maybe he was just imagining he was standing in water and instead he left Aerith in a trash heap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke View Post
    I think its sensible that Phoenix Down would only revive one from KO rather than from death

    However I dont understand why they didnt try a SOFT on RedXIII's dad
    Final Fantasy IV gave the player the option of using a Soft on Palom and Porom when they turn themselves to stone. It was a useless option added only for flavor, but it gave the player the option of trying, at least! I wonder why they didn't do something similar with Red XIII.

    Final Fantasy V has a case where the main characters try to save another character from dying by casting spells and using items, even if the characters didn't really know those spells or have those items in stock.
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