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    Because she became a fayth, much like how all the other fayths allowed summoners to summon the same thing, once she was a fayth she could impart her wisdom on whomever, int his case, Yuna if you unlock everything.

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    Yeah, but I don't see how she could be the FINAL AEON.

    I dunno, the game kind of gives the implication you must be a living sacrifice at that time.


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    We've explained everything to you Sam, it's not our fault you can't understand it. His mom WAS a willing sacrifice.

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    Yeah, but I don't see how she could be the FINAL AEON.

    I dunno, the game kind of gives the implication you must be a living sacrifice at that time.


    smurf, I hate the plot of this game. It's like swiss--full of holes, with extra cheese.
    Its not a plot hole, this story is actualy very well rounded if you ignore x-2.

    It's simple, chibi seymour completes his pilgrimage, and then does not battle sin. And so anima's fayth is moved too baaj ( upon seymours request i beleive).

    Anyone can call on this aeon if the aeon is willing, only difference is - anima is more powerful in seymours control due too the strength of their bond. It's the (cheesy i know) bonds power gives the aeon the strength too defeat sin.

    Once yu-yevon posses the aeon, that bond is cut and from what the game explains, severing that special bond will kill you.

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    Yes, this concept has been explained pretty clearly. For example, if Braska had decided not to challenge Sin, then the Fayth created from Jecht would have been able to impart Braska's Final Aeon to any summoner.

    I envision the path that a Summoner must take to get all of the summons like a racetrack. I am certain that Dona or other summoners had access to other paths and transportation that wasn't available to Yuna for a trip to Besaid if they wished to receive Valefor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogle View Post
    Yes, this concept has been explained pretty clearly. For example, if Braska had decided not to challenge Sin, then the Fayth created from Jecht would have been able to impart Braska's Final Aeon to any summoner.
    When is this explained?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogle View Post
    Yes, this concept has been explained pretty clearly. For example, if Braska had decided not to challenge Sin, then the Fayth created from Jecht would have been able to impart Braska's Final Aeon to any summoner.
    When is this explained?
    Pretty sure its explained pretty well by yunalesca, about the bonds and stuff.

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    When is this explained?
    Yunalesca: Welcome to Zanarkand. I congratulate you, summoner. You have completed your pilgrimage. I will now bestow you with that which you seek. The Final Summoning...will be yours. Now, choose. You must choose the one whom I will change...to become the fayth of the Final Summoning.

    Tidus' group gasp.

    Yunalesca: There must be a bond, between chosen and summoner, for that is what the Final Summoning embodies: the bond between husband and wife, mother and child, or between friends. If that bond is strong enough, its light will conquer Sin. A thousand years ago, I chose my husband Zaon as my fayth. Our bond was true, and I obtained the Final Aeon.

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    Yeah, no, I've played the game.

    I'm saying, where is it explained that if someone receives the Final Aeon and doesn't use it against Sin, that particular aeon becomes accessible to other people?
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    There is no difference between a Final Aeon and an Aeon in terms of general function. Whoever becomes the Fayth for the Final Summoning is just another soul trapped in a statue, same as any other Fayth.

    So there's no reason to think that, if another Summoner came and prayed to that fayth, he couldn't receive the aeon too.

    Granted Seymour is a unique case because he's the only known person to not have used his Final Aeon against Sin.

    But you see what I'm getting at right? I think it makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs View Post
    Yeah, no, I've played the game.

    I'm saying, where is it explained that if someone receives the Final Aeon and doesn't use it against Sin, that particular aeon becomes accessible to other people?
    Seems like your clutching at straws now tbh, a bit of common sense answers your question.

    Its not explained, however yuna did it, therefore it must be so? theres nothing saying it can't be done... and nor is there a reason too think it can't be done either so i don't know what your getting at anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunk View Post
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    Yeah, no, I've played the game.

    I'm saying, where is it explained that if someone receives the Final Aeon and doesn't use it against Sin, that particular aeon becomes accessible to other people?
    Seems like your clutching at straws now tbh, a bit of common sense answers your question.

    Its not explained, however yuna did it, therefore it must be so? theres nothing saying it can't be done... and nor is there a reason too think it can't be done either so i don't know what your getting at anymore.
    And I was never talking to you, anyways. So smurf you, too.

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    I guess that's fine but I'm not sure what there is to argue. Do you not think Anima was Seymour's Final Aeon? It seem pretty clear from the dialogue that she was.

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    Yes, that's what I'm saying.

    And I disagree. I feel it's ambiguous, at best. Every time I've played through it, I got the impression she was just meant to be a regular aeon. When she said, "Use me to defeat Sin" I sort of saw it in the same way as you use Valefor, Ifrit, etc to defeat Sin. While they may not be the Final Aeon, they are used in the Pilgrimage to defeat Sin.

    It makes no sense that she would leave her son to become the Final Aeon then. How does she know you have to do this, when no one in Spira does? Why not wait until her son is grown, so he has a mother? The game says that Seymour postponed his Pilgrimage (or quit it, whatever) to become a Priest of Yevon, but it never says how far he GOT in his Pilgrimage.

    The game never explicitly says it, so I don't really accept that as canonized fact.
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    They never said that no one in Spira knows what happens and how the Final Aeon is created. Yuna obviously knows - which is why her relationship to Tidus is so awkward and strained. She doesn't want to get close to anyone she'll have to say goodbye to, or worse yet murder.

    Lulu would've known as well, as she'd been on pilgrimages before. The game doesn't say it because it's told heavily from Tidus' perspective, and he doesn't know - not being from Spira and all.

    So I think Anima was intended to be a final Aeon for Seymour, as all of the Aeon's probably were at one point or another.

    EDIT: Also, calm down Boobs. When you post in a thread you're talking to anyone who wants to talk back. And dunk, don't be condescending.

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