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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuris View Post
    backed by his team and all his materia, cloud, by himself without help, zack, we never see him "early" but we do see how low cloud was.
    Cloud had neither his team nor his Materia when he first defeated Sephiroth, displaying a strength even Zack did not have, which was what drew Hojo to him for experimentation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover View Post
    I'll never get the Zack love. Cloud in VII was the most fascinating and unique main character in the entire series.

    Zack was just Zidane or Tidus or any number of other happy go-lucky heroes.
    This so much. Zidane was risked his own life twice to save Amarant and then later Kuja and both of them treated him like trout. Where's the Zidane love ?

    I think most of the Zack love comes from the Final Fantasy newbies that have started with KH or have just played Crisis Core and won't touch the original because of the downgrade in graphics.

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    i have to go with choosing Zack, cuz....there's just no beating all that unnatural energy that he got

    But honestly, if they had a match, it would probably end up as a tie, cuz none would be taking it too seriously, and would end up goofing around and forget why they even started fighting in the first place

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    Nowadays Cloud's strength is like comparable to Zack's. With his Hero-Strength Increase-Bonus he is above Zack.

    And Cloud's character was not destroyed. His "doubts" are always shown in Final Fantasy VII. Cloud does doubt himself even after getting back his true memories. He is only brave when it comes to protecting what is precious to him. And that is what the end of the story shows when the characters leave the Highwind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    Those memories of cloud being killed by the dragon were completely fabricated. Cloud never saw Zack fight a dragon, he filled in the blanks.

    No, he didn't do anything. Nothing in the game state that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maybee View Post
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    In fact I believe it is called Meteorain. As in, meteor rain.
    These days it wouldn't be Meterorain...it would be Emorain...

    Poor Cloud Squarenix has completely destroyed your character...
    Yeah, the real Cloud died when Kingdom Hearts was released. Advent Children made it worse. smurfing Steve Burton and his Dissida Cloud was awful.

    Anyhow, I always thought that, in the end, it depends on what game left a heavier impact on you. Crisis Core of FF7. I know someone who, for some reason, played Crisis Core first, which is fine. Thought he bitched way to hard about the end and how it was continued in FF7 xD "Where am I gonna get FF7? Wal Mart?!" Poor guy... But yeah he preffered Zack to Cloud tenfold. While someone like me, who played FF7 first, loved Cloud and found him to be really interesting.

    My personal opinion is undecided. I liked them both and they both left an impact on me. Though I felt Cloud was pretty cool in Crisis Core, don't ask why.

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    Cloud has a lot more depth because there's a lot more time and space allowed in FFVII for his character to develop but that's got nothing to do with whether he's stronger than Zack or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Mage Coffman View Post

    My personal opinion is undecided. I liked them both and they both left an impact on me. Though I felt Cloud was pretty cool in Crisis Core, don't ask why.
    Yes !

    Cloud Crisis Core is awesome. Maybe because he though he doesn't believe in himself he still tries. He's inspirational and he's a nice guy.

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