The Walking Dead TELEVISION SHOW ONLY 2-DOGG MEMORIAL EDITION (UNMARKED TV SPOILERS)

[NorthernChaosGod]

I like that look of realization on Andrea when they showed Daryl as one of the people who entered. She then knew it was her old party that just shot everyone up. So she shot at people she knew. It's about to get a lot more real for her.

God, if she doesn't redeem herself in the next episode I'm going to flip. Even if Michonne refuses to smurfing talk (even though she really, really, really should) there is now pretty damning evidence that the Governor is a psychopath and Andrea should have nothing to do with him. She's been pissing me off so much with how willing she is to ignore trout just to live comfortably in Woodbury.

They keep replacing black guys like it's going out of style or something. Wtf, man?

[Rantz]

listen here I was thinking

what if

listen!

what iiiiif michonne is both badass

AND idiotic???

Seriously I don't know why everybody's taking different camps on this one, the two are not mutually exclusive in any way. xD

[Shlup]

I'm not sure I can grasp the concept of a badass moron who's going to get herself killed because she can't use her smurfing words and wastes opportunities to achieve her goals by killing her own hostages.

[Rantz]

For examples of badass morons, see: any action movie ever.

[Madame Adequate]

To be fair to Andrea I'd probably overlook a lot of trout as well after the previous year or so of hell. I mean you've got hot water, food, lights, security. Compare that to how she was beforehand, huddled in the back of some store, sick, cold, with some crazy chick who never speaks but has two zombies on leashes. I don't think that sticking with the Guv is a priori unreasonable. But they make it look like she's there because she's a Grade A idiot rather than because she's actually accepting bad/crazy trout in exchange for what it gets her.

And Michonne is not a badass. Daryl is a badass. Carl is a badass. Michonne is what a kid thinks would be awesome whilst Daryl is what an adult thinks would be awesome. Drawing her ~HANZO STEEL~ to chop up zombies is nice and all but it doesn't excuse the tremendous amount of idiocy she's committing every single minute.

[fire_of_avalon]

So how many episodes before 3-dogg is replaced?

Of the inmates living in the prison there were 3 black guys, one hispanic guy and one hillbilly. Guess which one survived the longest?

My people are of hardy, methamphetamine resistant stock. But that lesbian comment? Man. Let's hug the stereotypes.

I like that look of realization on Andrea when they showed Daryl as one of the people who entered. She then knew it was her old party that just shot everyone up. So she shot at people she knew. It's about to get a lot more real for her.

I agree with this. She's accustomed to Michonne being aloof and stubborn, but Andrea chose life in season 2 and she wants to live it. So she's blinded herself to the little cues of smurfed up stuff that's going on. If you don't think most people do the same thing for a little security, poll some Americans and ask them what the NDAA is.

MILF and Miriel have got the point that's been bothering me all season. Everyone was so stoked about Michonne joining the show, but she's probably my least favorite character (even Andrea bothers me less because, at this point, I'm used to it). They've tried to play up Michonne as the survival-first type who's only doing what's in her best interest. The only problem, they've taken the loner archetype so far with her that it's directly and adversely affecting her chances of survival. She constantly puts herself in antagonistic position with everyone she meets.

When she went to the prison and met Rick and company, she could have mentioned that she knew Andrea. But she remained stubbornly quiet and caused them to mistrust her. She could have told Andrea that the Governor had lied to her an imprisoned two people she knew and the whole "terrorist" group was them reclaiming their own captured people. It really is a bit disappointing how so much of the conflict is perpetuated by how stubbornly stupid she's being.

I probably like Michonne because I would probably think a lot like Michonne at first. She doesn't want to reveal any information that could give someone the upper hand over her. For example, she could've mentioned that Andrea was in Woodbury and she thought there was a connection to the group in the prison. But then Rick & Co. might've tried to approach the situation diplomatically, reaching out to Andrea if possible and getting their people out. This would've been a big hindrance to Michonne's plan to smurf up The Governor. She needed support getting back to Woodbury and a distraction once she got there. She used Rick's group, and that was bad. Now, though, I think she'll realize that was a mistake. She, like a lot of characters, are at a turning point where they have to if they'll trust the right person or if they'll screw up.

It would be interesting to see which character type we'd all align with, given similar circumstances. We're not all Ricks, Maggies, Glenns and Daryls. Some of us would be Hershels and Beths. Some of us are probably Merles.

Ohh, that's interesting to think about.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I'm a Shane, without the insane power grubbing. I know the logical thing to do, and won't let morality get in my way during such situations, but I would also respect whoever the leader of the group was, and probably their wishes, too.

[Del Murder]

I'm a Shane, without the insane power grubbing. I know the logical thing to do, and won't let morality get in my way during such situations, but I would also respect whoever the leader of the group was, and probably their wishes, too.

You're Shane without most of the qualities that make him Shane?

[Shiny]

listen here I was thinking

what if

listen!

what iiiiif michonne is both badass

AND idiotic???

Seriously I don't know why everybody's taking different camps on this one, the two are not mutually exclusive in any way. xD

I totally concur with this. You can be a badass idiot. A badass idiot can jump off a roof to catch a killer, and then fall to their death because they forgot their parachute. Just as an example. So yeah, Michonne might actually be short lived if she keeps being this silly. Witholding information and trusting no one doesn't exactly mean you will survive. Obviously she needed Andrea or she wouldn't have brought her along? Or she thinks Andrea is a hot piece of ass...either way.

[Del Murder]

I only hope she has a really badass death. Like, fighting 1000 zombies single-handedly while the rest of the group escapes to safety and she manages to kill 700 of them before her sword wars down to a stub and she's forced to *punch* her way through the next 200 zombies until her fists are bloodied and finally she charges head first into the last 100 and detonates a hand grenade barrel of napalm that blows the entire city of Woodbury back to the stone age.

[Rantz]

I hope Del Murder writes and direct the series finale.

[Chris]

I have never equated being silent with being stupid. Michonne's obviously doing everything she can to keep herself distanced from everyone, so no one can get the upper hand on her. I don't think that is being stupid. Quite the contrary. I think it's quite smart, and probably what I'd do.

So, I don't understand why anyone could possibly accuse her of being stupid.

[Iceglow]

Going by the sneak preview you get during the credits for the half season finale, it seems like there's a clip of the Governor standing in the arena with smoke grenades going off, so I reckon Rick and Michonne will have gone back for Darryl however whether Darryl insists on them saving Merle too?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I'm a Shane, without the insane power grubbing. I know the logical thing to do, and won't let morality get in my way during such situations, but I would also respect whoever the leader of the group was, and probably their wishes, too.

You're Shane without most of the qualities that make him Shane?

No, I'm Shane with all the qualities that make him Shane, except I wouldn't always be nipping at Rick's heels all the time.

[krissy]

having read the comics well beyond this point it is really interesting to read your guys's comments.

i haven't watched since episode 2 of season 1 honestly. but i wonder how they're keeping it rated anything less than R. probably taking a lot of stuff out.