The Walking Dead TELEVISION SHOW ONLY 2-DOGG MEMORIAL EDITION (UNMARKED TV SPOILERS)

[Del Murder]

Not really. In fact the reason why kid actors are usually better than adult actors is because they don't over think like adults do. The actor who plays Carl is not the best I've seen, but he does a good job.

Da smurf? Name five child actors who are better than the average adult actor. Other than that girl in Beasts of the Southern Wild, who is an exception rather than the rule, I can't think of one.

[Shiny]

Yeaaah I'm not listing especially because I cba to figure out the names. Some of the films I saw were obscure indies, but I will say this: pretty much every good actor that is young or fairly young was once an amazing child actor.


Jodie Foster - Taxi Driver

Natalie Portman - The Professional

Christian Bale - Newsies (just kidding that movie blowed)

I've really only seen bad child acting in a poorly directed and written film, Spy Kids.

[Madame Adequate]

You shut your mouth, Spy Kids ownes bones

[McLovin']

Hit Girl you fools!

[Shiny]

Oh yeah, she was good but that role doesn't really showcase her acting chops more than it jut exploits her. She's going to be playing Carrie so we'll see how she does in that.

[Miriel]

Not really. In fact the reason why kid actors are usually better than adult actors is because they don't over think like adults do. The actor who plays Carl is not the best I've seen, but he does a good job.

O_O

No. Just full stop, no.

There are occasional children actors who are good, but most are super limited in their abilities. And HELL NO to the idea that kid actors are *usually* better than adults.

The kid who plays Carl was horribly bad the first season, and pretty bad the 2nd season. He is ok this season. But he's also growing up, which means he might just be learning to get better as he grows. He was 11 when he started walking dead. Now he's almost 14. I would say another year and he won't be in the "child" actor territory anymore. He does look way younger though.

[Del Murder]

Yeaaah I'm not listing especially because I cba to figure out the names. Some of the films I saw were obscure indies, but I will say this: pretty much every good actor that is young or fairly young was once an amazing child actor.

Jodie Foster - Taxi Driver

Natalie Portman - The Professional

Christian Bale - Newsies (just kidding that movie blowed)

I've really only seen bad child acting in a poorly directed and written film, Spy Kids.

You named like the only two ever.

[Shiny]

Those are definitely not the only two but their names are the only ones I can actually remember. Not because they weren' t good but because the films weren't as big as the ones mentioned above.

I also find television children to be much funnier on shows than adults.

Oh wait I forgot Stand By Me...most of the kids in that film were better actors as children.

I have been to casting calls and seen how children audition compared to adults. Children are more free and less over thinking, which makes them more natural and less forced. Granted I have seem some horrible child actors audition but a lot of the time it seems to be because of their helicopter parents controlling how they read their lines. The actor who plays Carl is no where near being bad. Amazing? No, but definitely not bad and definitely a less forced than other cast members who try to hard to be a "thing" like Michonne with her angry black woman thing and Dale with his...whatever Dale was trying to be.

[fire_of_avalon]

I don't get why we hate Andrea.

Now do you get it? How did it take her this long to realize the Governor is a psycho?

Just hurry up and get to the damn war so we can go back to more interesting episodes like the Morgan one.

This irritates me because in the first half of the season, she literally saw nothing that the audience knew about. From her very limited perspective Phillip was a determined and compassionate man who was after her ladybits. She didn't see all the murder/heads in aquariums/plans to kill Michonne when we saw it. And she's been really suspicious of him since the arena, which is where she saw the crazy violent psychopath part of him for the first time.

How many of you could seriously say you could immediately turn on someone you cared about, someone to whom you felt you owed your survival, and kill them. I mean if Andrea could've done that so easily, then she could have, and would have, killed Michonne when she saw her almost kill the Governor the first time. Andrea wants to find a place in the world that she can work with people to make habitable and communal again. Up until the torture chamber, she thought there was a way she could help bring peace between the two camps, that the Governor could be reasoned with. You can't fault someone for not having the information to make an assessment.

And yeah, I know, Michonne "told" her what happened, but what Michonne really did was use it to retaliate against Andrea for hurting her. Even so, as soon as Andrea had concrete evidence that the Governor planned to torture/rape/kill/maim Michonne and destroy the group, she immediately tried to end it.

Andrea had it coming. She stayed even when she became suspicious. People who haven't even been there for that long feel something is off about him and yet because she bonked him she set aside her suspicions and the suspicions of other people close to her. Dumb as hell.

Also Milton is totally gonna die and probably horribly at the hands The Governor which serves him right for knowing about a friggin' torture chamber and just now telling someone about it. Dude wtf.

I also this is the first time I actually felt scared watching the show. I felt like Andrea. Like oh god please don't catch her dumbass. This is the first time I felt he was actually terrifying and hopefully he will start becoming more like the psychopath he is in the comics instead of just a cunning sociopath.

See above about limited knowledge and seeing a different side of him. Furthermore, Tyrese is also willing to set aside his woogy feelings to keep his group there, even though that Alan dude is a bastard. So does that make him stupid too?

I am just starting to kind of like Milton, but I don't think he burned the pit zombies. I think even if he did play a huuuuge hand like that, he isn't ballsy enough to come out and mention it to the Governor.

Merle is the best villain of the series.

Yep.

OH GOD I DO NOT WANT HIM TO MURDER RAPE ANDREA. Like that scene where he grabs her at the prison? I almost died.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Finally, someone else who understands Andrea's position. FoA, you have gained 5 internets today. Everyone else hating on Andrea, shame.

[Del Murder]

And yeah, I know, Michonne "told" her what happened, but what Michonne really did was use it to retaliate against Andrea for hurting her. Even so, as soon as Andrea had concrete evidence that the Governor planned to torture/rape/kill/maim Michonne and destroy the group, she immediately tried to end it.

Why would she trust someone she's known for a few weeks over someone she's known for months and literally owes her survival? Also, she may not know everything we did in the first half of the season, and she's forgiven for that, but she knew it all in the last episode, and still went back there.

[fire_of_avalon]

Are you asking why she didn't leave Woodbury with Michonne in the first place? If so, I think that Woodbury was too tempting. I probably would've stayed too, even if my bff said something was fishy. People do stupid things to feel safe. If you mean to question why she would go back to Woodbury after Rick and The Governor's meeting, I think it's because she felt she could do some good there, convince everyone the prison wasn't a threat. And maybe she felt like she didn't belong with the Ricktatorship anymore. And also plot contrivance.

EDIT: Also, I have 5 internets. Your argument is invalid.

[Del Murder]

I don't know what that last sentence means, but I will accept plot contrivance as the best argument for all of it.

[Shlup]

I don't get why we hate Andrea.

Now do you get it? How did it take her this long to realize the Governor is a psycho?

Just hurry up and get to the damn war so we can go back to more interesting episodes like the Morgan one.

Yes, actually. ;____;

NOW THAT YOU KNOW HE'S NUTS YOU JUST WALK THE smurf AWAY WHEN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO KILL HIM GODDAMMIT I HATE ANDREA STARTING THIS WEEK.

[Slothy]

Why would she trust someone she's known for a few weeks over someone she's known for months and literally owes her survival? Also, she may not know everything we did in the first half of the season, and she's forgiven for that, but she knew it all in the last episode, and still went back there.

Firstly: do you honestly have trouble understanding why someone who spent six months on the run, on foot no less, through walker infested country would want to stay in a place with walls, showers and hot meals? If that seems so strange then I have to question your sanity.

Second: yes, she spent months on the run with Michonne. And from what little we saw of them together on their own, Michonne didn't talk much then either. And if this person who rarely says a word suddenly came to you ranting about how the person you think saved you both was crazy and dangerous and would kill you both, are you going to believe her or the guy who seems perfectly rational and calm and who welcomed you into a relatively safe community?

Honestly, I'm not sure where you're difficulty understanding Andreas temptation in this comes from.

And when you say last episode, do you mean the previous episode where the Governor met up with Rick to pretend to deal? Because she still didn't know everything in that episode. Nobody actually bothered to tell her about things like the Governor making Maggie think he might rape her. They alluded to him being a bad guy and that was it. They never actually told her the details which probably would have convinced her to just leave right then and there.