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Any of the playable races listed in the SRD I am likely fine with, Id just want it run by me first. (And the Pathfinder monk is way more useful then a 3.5 monk. )
I'm allowing all 3.5 books. Pathfinder is still a small system, so even though it does make a slightly better monk, once you factor in all of 3.5's available feats and other options, you can make a nasty monk. It's able to over come a lot of damage reduction and other issues that Pathfinder monks can't yet.

I also just don't get how a monk isn't considered a martial class, and is stuck with d8 hit die. It's a smurfing MONK!
1) Half of a 3.5 Monks class abilities are so Circumstantial they never get used.

2) Just to rub in PF monks vs. 3.5 more, here is their Flurry of Bonus at 20th level.

PF: +18/+18/+13/+13/+8/+8/+3
3.5: +15/+15/+15/+10/+5

3) Pathfinder Monks AC Bonus Scales slightly faster, and ends up +1 AC higher.

4) I have no Idea what the hell you mean by Damage Reduction being something a monk Can't overcome in Pathfinder. Their Ki Strike, which is how a Monk in 3.5 overcomes DR, is exactly the same as a Pathfinder monk. This is just going into core mind you for both systems. By 16th level, their fists are considered adamantine,

In addition, with Pathfinder, if you have a high enough quality material (In this Case Adamantine) You can overcome the DR of anything ranked lower then adamantine. (Silver, slashing, bludgeonin, ect.) so the monks normal ability to overcome DR is inherently greater then the 3.5 monks.

This is not taking into account additional books from just first party. The Martial Artist Archetype can, at early levels, over come ANY DR.

5) Now without going into post Core Material, the Ki Pool in Pathfinder makes monks even better combatants. They can use Ki to make an additional attack during a Flurry of blows (At their full base, which during Flurry has a higher chance of hitting as a Pathfinder Monk then a 3.5 monk), increase their AC for a round, or add to his run speed.

Also his Abundent step is more useful. 3.5 monk gets it once a day. Pathfinder monk does it by spending points from his Ki Pool.

6) Monks have way more bonus feats to select from even at fist level. In addition, last Monk Bonus feat in 3.5 is 6th, PF continues to gain a Monk Bonus Feat every 4 levels after.

7) Lets not forget bonus's vs. Combat manuevers a 3.5 doesn't get. (Trips, bullsrush, ect.)

And mind you, if you want to start getting into things Monks have access to past core, I still have Combat Styles to throw at you.