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    FFXI was open world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    FFXI was open world.
    It is an MMO.

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    In fact if you look at a large portion of the 'dungeons' you run through in FF7-9 they are very hallway like. It's just the camera PoV that keeps things interesting.
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    You're right, but I think for clarification we should note there's a difference between FFVII-IX hallway and FFXIII hallway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    You're right, but I think for clarification we should note there's a difference between FFVII-IX hallway and FFXIII hallway.
    FFVII - IX's hallway had the illusion of choice and freedom, while FFXIII's maps just basically straight up told you you were in for corridors. The map in this link just shows it. Like a marathon.


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    As a fan, Final Fantasy has taken a massive dive, I'm enormously disappointed with Square Enix, and the series should return to its roots.

    As an outside observer, contemporary Final Fantasy games are miles better than the classics in many regards, and any attempt to make games like they used to be would be a huge leap backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinter Wonderland View Post
    As a fan, Final Fantasy has taken a massive dive, I'm enormously disappointed with Square Enix, and the series should return to its roots.
    I am FF fan but no thanks, between ports, remakes, FF dimensions, 4WoL, BDFF and tons of cameos in pretty much any newly released FF, I am pretty much done with "return to roots" thing and low spec games, I am more interested in FF as bleeding edge series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black orb View Post
    >>> Again, FF is all about money now..
    FF should have died long time ago, since Sakaguchi left if im not wrong..
    Final Fantasy was always about the money. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

    And Sakaguchi is far from a good-game-guarantee. There's like half a dozen games he's been involved in that aren't particularly good. Decent, maybe. Great? No. I think you should take those rose tinted glasses off.
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    ^ Especially in his post-Square years. There's a reason Archaic Sealed Heat wasn't localized...

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    Archaic Sealed Heat? Is that seriously a real game title? .
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    Yes, and it was something I was looking forward to immensely, another star-pairing title with Sakaguchi, and supposedly it failed miserably...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    There's like half a dozen games he's been involved in that aren't particularly good.
    >>> None of them are Final Fantasy..

    Play FF6 or FF7, to create such games obviously you need more motivation than just money..
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    So what if they aren't Final Fantasy? If you're a good game designer, the name of your game wouldn't have an impact on the quality of the game.

    I never said money was the only motivation. I said all Final Fantasy games were made with making money as one of the important goals.

    Most of the newer games were made with more motivation than just money too. It's just that they suck because the people making them aren't in touch with what the fans want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    So what if they aren't Final Fantasy? If you're a good game designer, the name of your game wouldn't have an impact on the quality of the game.
    >>> Some people is only good for one thing, like George Lucas and Star Wars (i think it was sold to Disney now. lol..)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    I never said money was the only motivation. I said all Final Fantasy games were made with making money as one of the important goals.
    >>> Thats right, if they only wanted money FF9 would have been just another FF7-FF8 clone (like ff13)..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Most of the newer games were made with more motivation than just money too. It's just that they suck because the people making them aren't in touch with what the fans want.
    >>> Im sure they realize their own lack of talent for FF games. With that in mind, the only reason for them to keep at it is just the money/FF fanboys (which are pretty much the same thing)..
    >> The black orb glitters ominously... but nothing happens..

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    I'm not sure if I can take you seriously when you call FF13 a FF7/8 clone.
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