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    Because of this
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    >> SOLDIER FILES
    >>> Combat
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    I assumed you ripped it from one of the spinoffs I hadn't played.

    My point is very simple HC, even trying to explain it, you gave someone that in its core, is still magic. Magic replaced with the word materia. To make an explanation truly be an explanation you'd need to be highly detailed, even then the explanation wouldn't work in real life, but that's ok. That's what makes it fantasy. But vague explanations are nothing more than saying the process in which the magic is transported. When I have more time, I'd write up something that if included would've been a hell of a lot closer to an "explanation" then Square gave us.

    Overall though, Square took the word magic and replaced it with materia, because it sounded cooler.

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    Command materia only stores knowledge, like any other materia. It stores the knowledge necessary to perform techniques that allow you to attack several enemies at once, or one enemy several times in rapid succession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Because of this
    Shinra Power Company
    >ALL Files
    >> SOLDIER FILES
    >>> Combat
    >>>>Materia
    I assumed you ripped it from one of the spinoffs I hadn't played.

    My point is very simple HC, even trying to explain it, you gave someone that in its core, is still magic. Magic replaced with the word materia. To make an explanation truly be an explanation you'd need to be highly detailed, even then the explanation wouldn't work in real life, but that's ok. That's what makes it fantasy. But vague explanations are nothing more than saying the process in which the magic is transported. When I have more time, I'd write up something that if included would've been a hell of a lot closer to an "explanation" then Square gave us.

    Overall though, Square took the word magic and replaced it with materia, because it sounded cooler.
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    Oh GoBo if you're talking from a meatspace perspective, it's obviously magic. I mean, these things are not possible in our world, so it falls under the supernatural/paranormal/magical. But in universe, it's defined as not being magic, but rather some kind of alternative magic-like thing to do with spirits and crystallised knowledge and trout.

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    They eat the materia. What does materia taste like? Lime, blue raspberry, cherry, lemon, and grape.

    Then they belch it out, and it makes crazy stuff happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs View Post
    They eat the materia. What does materia taste like? Lime, blue raspberry, cherry, lemon, and grape.

    Then they belch it out, and it makes crazy stuff happen.
    I think this is the best explanation so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Overall though, Square took the word magic and replaced it with materia, because it sounded cooler.
    I felt the word was stupid. They might as well have called it "matter", it wouldn't have made it sound more or less cool.

    Clearly, one does not have to be a magic-user to utilize materia with magic in it. Obviously, then it is not as much the materia alone but the link humans have to the Ancients that allows them to access the knowledge of the Lifestream crystallized in the materia.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    I like the word materia. Matter makes me think of poop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs View Post
    I like the word materia. Matter makes me think of poop.
    I've never heard of poop being referred to as "matter."

    "I got to matter." "Matter-chute." "Matter on a stick." "I matter you not." "Flaming bag of matter."

    By the way, the Lifestream could very well be a toilet flush with the materia being the poop of the Ancients. just fyi
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    , Fecal matter.

    Also, I think materia is a brilliant name for it. It sounds like "material" but by dropping the L, it gives it a mystical sort of sound. It really fits in well with the world. That is, mysticsm, mythology, and magic in a highly realized technological world. They take the word "material" and give it an enigmatic edge. Since most people don't even know what materia really is, it's fitting in that sense as well.

    All of this goes back to Sephiroth's explanation of materia in the Mt. Nibel flashback. It let's you cast magic, but in such a scientific world, using a wod like magic would be scoffed at. The word materia itself can mimic the passing of the Ancients from the world, but more importantly from common knowledge. In a technological world, everything can be explained by science. Magic, spiritualism, and cosmology are things people no longer have respect for, or believe in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs View Post
    Magic, spiritualism, and cosmology are things people no longer have respect for, or believe in.
    ...What.

    (SPOILER)[q]Physical cosmology is the scholarly and academic study that seeks to understand the origin, evolution, structure, and ultimate fate of the universe at large, as well as the natural laws that keep it in order.[1] The subject matter of this field is studied using scholarly methodology, including the scientific method and reason. It is studied by scientists, such as astronomers, and theoretical physicists; and academic philosophers, such as metaphysicians, philosophers of physics, and philosophers of space and time. Modern cosmology is dominated by the Big Bang theory, which attempts to bring together observational astronomy and particle physics.[2][/q]

    Were you referring to, like, "end of the world" theories and such? Because even in religious cosmology, that's obvious crap that people don't actually care about. Cosmology is a legitimate field of study, not a ridiculous pseudo-science like homeopathy or astrology.
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    what's homepathy?

    also, materia is the original latin for "material, matter"
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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