To be honest, I kind of feel bad about gunning for someone who's just subbed in, but if we don't go after the character instead of the player, we essentially lose by default. That's what cost us Del Murder last time.
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To be honest, I kind of feel bad about gunning for someone who's just subbed in, but if we don't go after the character instead of the player, we essentially lose by default. That's what cost us Del Murder last time.
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Oh smurf it I'm just going to come out and say it.
I think we have two mafias.
Wakka, Faris (Godfather), Setzer, unknown.
Penelo, Relm, Blank, Galuf.
I know having four on each is insanely powerful but you consider the amount of hax roles the town has had.
I've made my analysis as to team mates from votes and suspicions. Note Setzer voting for Relm yesterday, for example, and Penelo defending her. I also note Faris is not voting for Wakka which is why she is with him.
Mafia 2 has two members left, Mafia 1 has three. I hope you can now see why we need to get Wakka down first. I mean if you want to get Faris, that's cool too, but yeah.
I don't know if I will have time to post my full "Person X is in Mafia Y" notes as they're mostly mental. And, well, effort. But feel free to look over their posts and associations yourself and see if you think I am right.
I don't know who the unknown is but just wait and see who votes for Relm and who votes for Wakka.
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I am not sure why you believe I won't vote today, Luneth, I've only been inactive because I was cooking and entertaining guests (and then had to take a 2 hour nap to recover some). I am here now and I have quickly read up on what I've missed, but I will have to read more into why it is such a rush to lynch Wakka right now for the good of town and all. I know you are a good player and I agree with your assessment of who is mafia, but I missed the reason for the rush on Wakka.Originally Posted by [M] Luneth
Galuf and Setzer are presumably not on the same team as they are a specialist killing role.
Faris has outright refused to vote for Wakka, thus is on Wakka's team.
Setzer was often up in Relm's trout and voted for him, so is probably not on Relm's team.
Penelo seems rather naive. She has been defending Relm, so they are likely together.
As Blank and Faris are both Godfathers, they are not on the same team.
I appreciate this is not perfect logic but it's what I have been working on. I've been looking back through the thread and there's more ties but I'm going to bed right now. This is just a starter point. There is more but I'm so tired. Christ I'll probably end up staying up and posting it anyway.
Mafia A (Wakka, Faris, Setzer, unknown) is undoubtedly the stronger right now, given the number advantage and the mystery surrounding the fourth member. We need to hit them first and we need to hit them now.
If we lynch Relm today, and they kill 2 town tonight (I suspect me and Rikku might be getting it) that's 3 mafia A, 1 mafia B, 4 town. And we don't know who the other member of mafia A is. Not a good position to be in because you're staring game over in the face right there. Lynch Wakka, and you're left with 2 mafia A, 2 mafia B, 4 town. Mafia A is weakened, and this gives more room for error for the town.
Rikku, Leon, I leave it up to you. I hope to god one of you two is not the mystery mafia member. Rikku, I am happy to lynch Relm or Penelo tomorrow. I really am.
Please please please listen to me. Thank you.
hope post below clears it up. Wakka is on the stronger mafia team right now. We need to hit the stronger team else tomorrow we're in trouble. If my analysis still gives you doubt as to what the stronger team is... look at who has the most votes.I am not sure why you believe I won't vote today, Luneth, I've only been inactive because I was cooking and entertaining guests (and then had to take a 2 hour nap to recover some). I am here now and I have quickly read up on what I've missed, but I will have to read more into why it is such a rush to lynch Wakka right now for the good of town and all. I know you are a good player and I agree with your assessment of who is mafia, but I missed the reason for the rush on Wakka.
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Luneth is pretty smart, but he's very determined to have Wakka lynched, because he's been acting scummy. However, I think we should focus our attention on someone just as scummy, like Relm, who Rikku, a gunsmith, determined to be owning a gun. Penelo, the other person with a gun from Rikku's report, is an FBI agent, seems pretty innocent at the moment. Relm, on the other hand, simply refuses to cooperate when we've been accusing her. She, to me, seems more dangerous a scum, than Wakka.
Anyway, Wedge... I sense you might have done some investigating for us last night. Care to share with who you investigated, and who might have those reports with us?
Luneth, I've determine both Wakka and Relm might be scum, but to me, Relm is simply the more dangerous of the two.
why is Relm more dangerous? please advise. I need to know why. Thank you.
No, you make complete sense and I agree with your assessment. Well, I have been willing to trust your judgement before so I will so again. I have to leave for a bit but I am willing to put my vote down now and when I come back I will tell you about my reporting.
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thank you wedge
I am so exhausted but I can't turn my back on this.
by the way wedge... have you considered the possibility you're being roleblocked and that is why nobody has ever got a report? it makes some sense, no? i think so.
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Not sure why you keep doing this. 'I'll post it later guys, I swear.' Your first post should have been this information!
The 2 mafias theory is plausible, and makes sense given all the smurf ton of town power roles in this game. Seriously. If there were no inactives in this game then the mafia would have been pretty screwed.
Luneth, does the 2 mafia theory fit in with your own role or are you just basing this with what has been posted? Also, if you feel you are in danger of being killed I hope you would claim before the day is over if it helps the town.
I think I called for this before, but seriously if everyone claimed at this point I'm pretty sure we could put the pieces together.
Did Faris mention who she tracked last night? Is there a recap somewhere of all of Faris's trackings?
I've considered this as well, and that's why I generally believed Wedge's claim from the begining. I'm almost certain a Prostitute is in play and my hunch is that it is Relm.
Faris tracked Setzer which was very convienient.
Suggest you investigate Faris tonight.
nothing to do with my role, I can claim if needs be. But I don't know if it would really help. I just hope to confuse the mafia into who to target. You, me, each other. Interesting to see how it all goes down.
although if you have a hunch as to whoever this other bastard is investigate them instead. I don't have a clue right now. Suspect it is not Wedge or Rydia. Process of elimination: Leon, Balthier, Cid.
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