Anniversary Mafia Game Thread - The Final Day

[[M] Adama]

Rydia]Ergo, if Wedge is town, by lynching him we're freeing up the mafia to use their night kill to go after someone with a potentially more useful ability

So Wedge is effectively a meat shield to defend the town? Interesting.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

Main point is that Wedge is as good as dead anyways if we don't have a protective role.

[[M] Adama]

Hang on, what roles are actually KIA?

I'll get a list in a second. Bear with.

[[M] Adama]

Accounts in Play
[M] Noctis - Killed, Night 4 - Bullet Proof Townie played by Psychotic.
[M] Wedge
[M] Biggs - Lynched, Day 5 - Suspicious Townie played by Raebus, replaced by Shattered Dreamer, replaced by Del Murder.
[M] Leon
[M] Leila - Killed, Night 5 - Insane Cop played by Faris.
[M] Refia - Killed, Night 4 - Spy played by Refia.
[M] Luneth
[M] Rydia
[M] Kain - Killed, Night 2 - Bus Driver played by Aerith's Knight.
[M] Faris
[M] Galuf - Killed, Night 3 - Mafia Poisoner played by shion and sharkythesharkdogg
[M] Relm
[M] Setzer - Killed, Night 55 - Mafia Ninja played by Shauna.
[M] Yuffie - Killed, Night 4 - Jack of All Trades played by Madonna.
[M] Cid
[M] Laguna - Killed, Night 1 - Doctor played by Del Murder.
[M] Quistis - Killed, Night 2 - Gladiator played by Laddy.
[M] Quina - Killed, Night 2 - Beloved Princess played by Red Mage Coffman, replaced by Del Murder.
[M] Blank - Lynched, Day 4 - Mafia Godfather played by Jojee.
[M] Wakka
[M] Rikku
[M] Penelo
[M] Balthier
[M] Serah - Killed, Night 2 - Governor played by Goldenboko.
[M] Sazh - Lynched, Day 1 - Day Vigilante played by Shattered Dreamer.

Ok, so we have lost our doctor very early on, which is annoying. We lost our beloved princess, which is bad and our friendly bus driver. Also, a bullet proof townie is dead, as is our JOAT.

We might have one more protective role left, but then again it's all down to the composition of the town. Wedge is effectively the town's protective role

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

I'm at a turkey day thjng so i can't write too much out but, i find relm to be more than they appear. They were dead set on biggs yesterday even after he claimed. For now,

##vote: relm

wat. xD did you even read the day at all yesterday?

[[M] Anise]

As always: Wedge, Faris, cough up your investigations.

Essentially at this point we have (what I believe) to be three cleared town: Wedge, Faris and Rydia. Wedge and Faris because of Miss Leila's insane investigations. This leaves us with you guys:

Leon
Relm
Luneth
Cid
Rikku
Penelo
Balthier

And of course me, who probably has the worst track record out of everyone.

But yesterday was a ridiculous day towards the end. I get the feeling that at least one of the people who jumped on Biggs yesterday are scum. So I gots my eyes on you Luneth, Penelo and Relm.

I don't agree that Cid is definitely town. So the mafia poisoned him - that doesn't stop him from being a serial killer. I do agree though, that Faris probably would be the safest bet for sending the report to.


Anyway, I need to hit the hay.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

I don't agree that Cid is definitely town. So the mafia poisoned him - that doesn't stop him from being a serial killer.

Only if the mafia knew even then that there was a SK in play, which we can't be 100% certain of even now. I believe the SK speculation arose from the night phase where only Galuf died, after the kill order on Cid was sent in. Where's your information coming from?

[[M] Adama]

As always: Wedge, Faris, cough up your investigations.

Essentially at this point we have (what I believe) to be three cleared town: Wedge, Faris and Rydia. Wedge and Faris because of Miss Leila's insane investigations. This leaves us with you guys:

Leon
Relm
Luneth
Cid
Rikku
Penelo
Balthier

And of course me, who probably has the worst track record out of everyone.

But yesterday was a ridiculous day towards the end. I get the feeling that at least one of the people who jumped on Biggs yesterday are scum. So I gots my eyes on you Luneth, Penelo and Relm.

I don't agree that Cid is definitely town. So the mafia poisoned him - that doesn't stop him from being a serial killer. I do agree though, that Faris probably would be the safest bet for sending the report to.


Anyway, I need to hit the hay.

Wedge and Leila also voted for Biggs, and Leila was a insane cop townie, meaning Wedge is also town. Effectively, Townies also voted for Biggs. It weren't some mafia ploy to lynch him!

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

It weren't some mafia ploy to lynch him!

No, it was unalloyed sequaciousness.

Query for the longtime players: Has Jack of All Trades been used before? If so, we can safely assume all remaining roles are ones that have been in play prior to now. It would be bootless for Jiro to give us 2 new roles when the first one to die would alert us to the possibility of a second. One, I could see, for mindsmurf reasons. Not two.

[[M] Adama]

Right, I'm off to bed. It's half one in the morning in England

Happy thanksgiving (To those who celebrate it) and happy days in general town!

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Query for the longtime players: Has Jack of All Trades been used before? If so, we can safely assume all remaining roles are ones that have been in play prior to now. It would be bootless for Jiro to give us 2 new roles when the first one to die would alert us to the possibility of a second. One, I could see, for mindsmurf reasons. Not two.

I think it was used in Mafia XIX under a different name. Wildcard I think it was called.

[Jiro]

Be scared of all of these votes:

[M] Relm (1) - Balthier

26 hours left if my maths is right.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

We have time to arrive at a conclusion.

I haven't voted because I don't know who to vote for. I can be influenced, folks.

[[M] Apollo]

Ok, Imma go through a few things, and just post them as I find them.
IMO a pretty good night. A confirmed cop, which confirms Wedge and Faris as townies. And no more ninja (well done mysterious killer).

Ok, first up.

I'm still not sure I buy Refia as town; Remember that report came from a neutral source. Is it neutral to scotch a false theory by town? Seems more likely that, this being mindsmurf mafia, someone has a role that can influence Stiltz.*

Sure that could be a townie influencing a reveal from the mod, but it could also be a mafia planting a red herring to throw off a valid conjecture.

*Sure it hasn't (to my knowledge, I still haven't read *all* of the walls of text as evinced by the fact that I am not sixty-four years old to have had that much time) happened in a game before, but this is mindsmurf, which is a perfect time to introduce never-before-seen roles.

To me this is going a bit far. I don't think Jiro's ego would handle not being in control of the town. He is the GM, he is in control.
Refia was blue and then confirmed to be a cop-like town by Stiltz. If someone were in control of our GM, then that would be twice, such a role would be way to over powered. Although I was not at all trusting in Wedge or Faris, I'm inclined to believe that the guilty verdict on those two confirms their innocence. Better come through with some nice results today guys.

[[M] Apollo]

Wedge now has 2 confirmed townies to send reports to; Assume for now that he's town and put yourself in the mafia's Wedge, as a townie, would not risk sending his report to the mafia, so it will go to either Faris or Cid. That means the mafia can either get a 50% chance of stopping his report by taking out one of those two, or a 100% chance of stopping it by taking out Wedge himself.

Ok, initially I was rather confused by this, as I didn't recall Cid ever being cleared as innocent.
Then I remembered that Cid was visited by Galuf (therefore poisoned), as told to us by the now confirmed to be innocent Faris, and Rydia, acting as the Apothecary saved Cid.

Side thought here. If Wedge or Faris were some sort of Mafia role that came up innocent when investigated (and therefore guilty to Leila), then either one of these two could be scum. This removes all that CONFIRMED townie stuff, but I still think that we can't be too safe calling them 100% confirmed. At least one of them should be town though...