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    I really like the Squall is Dead theory. However I think it's simply a case of mysterious magic at work. How did Cloud survive being impaled by Sephiroth's sword when Aeris died in one hit? Same with Tifa surviving. It's all just conveniently ignored because there's not a realistic explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart View Post
    Another question arises. Why is the spell equivalent of the phoenix down called "Life" if they are only KO'ed? And I believe it has always been implied that the party gets killed after they're KO'ed, hence the Game Over screen instead of the "enemies that just destroyed us leave us alone while we regain consciousness" screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiro View Post
    I really like the Squall is Dead theory.
    Why ? If CD 2 onwards is Squall's ego fantasy then what's the point in playing and spending a hour drawing Meteor magic from a level 60 Red Dragon ?

    It might as well just be a movie. Plus it makes Squall look like some huge egoistical ass-hole instead of a misunderstood soul.

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    I think they were just like, "We need to end the first disc with a BANG!" and someone said, "Let's make people afraid that Squall might be dead but then he's okay!" and then someone else said, "Make it so."


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    Quote Originally Posted by maybee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jiro View Post
    I really like the Squall is Dead theory.
    Why ? If CD 2 onwards is Squall's ego fantasy then what's the point in playing and spending a hour drawing Meteor magic from a level 60 Red Dragon ?

    It might as well just be a movie. Plus it makes Squall look like some huge egoistical ass-hole instead of a misunderstood soul.
    I enjoy the theory for the same reasons I enjoy the theory that Pokémon is Ash Ketchum's comatose fantasy. It provides an interesting framework for which to wave away some of the flaws while simultaneously giving us a great insight into Squall's personality. It doesn't make him look like a huge egotistical asshole, or at least, no more than he already is. Instead, it shows how his mind reconciles all of his flaws and insecurities by pitting him against an impossible foe and having to rely on the people he loves closest but fears to lose.

    The mechanics of the game are irrelevant. You're right though: it might as well be a movie. Every good video game story might as well be a movie. Or a book. Or whatever else. The mechanics are often completely removed from the tale itself and while you might be a gaming buff for the gaming, I'm a gaming buff for the story.

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    In a game where you can bring dead characters back to life and heal their wounds with magic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMKA View Post
    In a game where you can bring dead characters back to life and heal their wounds with magic...
    True. But the game never explains why or how. Squall comments on it briefly and then everyone moves on with their life.

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    You can't bring dead characters back to life - only knocked out characters.
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    Final Fantasy protagonists are difficult to kill unless they are on their knees begging to be impaled from behind.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

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    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
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    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Final Fantasy protagonists are difficult to kill unless they are on their knees begging to be impaled from behind.
    Or not consuming enough healthy fish during the apocalypse. ;__;

    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    You can't bring dead characters back to life - only knocked out characters.
    So...is the "Death" spell a mistranslation?
    I like Kung-Fu.

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    In some Final Fantasy games it's knocked out when you loose HP and sometimes it means death. I think in Final Fantasy VII 0 HP equals knocked out. In Final Fantasy VIII I think it's death.

    In Final Fantasy IX it's death for sure because the game over picture is a graveyard same with Final Fantasy VIII I think.

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    He survived specifically because he's a Final Fantasy character, and if there's one thing we know about Final Fantasy characters, it's:


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    Or not consuming enough healthy fish during the apocalypse. ;__;
    What?
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Or not consuming enough healthy fish during the apocalypse. ;__;
    What?
    Haven't played a certain game, I presume?


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    Wow. What a fantastic theory. The Squall is Dead theory is deep and explains a lot. And for someone like me who HATES this game with a burning passion for its horrid story, plot holes, and gameplay, this offers an escape from all that. If this theory were true, I could like this game. I really could. I'd still hate the battle system to some extent, but I could still accept this.

    To bad it isn't true though. I think everytime I play this game now, I'll remember this theory. It'll keep me playing, looking for more evidence supporting the theory.

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