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    Default Why does Rosa expect Rydia to be able to easily handle Black Magic?

    Rydia is a Summoner, and Black Magic ≠ Summon Magic.
    What's this all about?
    Yeah, I realize that Summon Magic is in many ways similar to powerful Black Magic, but it's still not the same profession.

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    It's sort of like how I would be able to drive a bus even though I've only had drivers education for regular cars.
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    She's a racist, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy View Post
    I figure making a chocobo appear out of thin air requires a little more effort than a small flame.
    Yes but Rydia is considered a Summoner, not a Black Mage.
    And Rosa just seems to assume that if someone knows Summon Magic then they automatically know Black Magic as well, almost as if it were a weaker version of Summon Magic or something.

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    Are you referring to the part where she has to encourage Rydia to use fire? Because Rydia can already use black magic prior to this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeloZer0 View Post
    Are you referring to the part where she has to encourage Rydia to use fire? Because Rydia can already use black magic prior to this point.
    Yes, but I mean from an interactive perspective.
    Rosa doesn't seem to know about Rydia's ability to use Black Magic, but apparently thinks that since she is a Summoner she "should" automatically be a capable Black Mage as well.
    Does this mean that being skilled in Black Magic is a prerequisite for a Summoner?

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    I think Final Fantasy Tactics has proven that the answer is yes.
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    Well, technically speaking it has at least proven that Summoners are unlocked by leveling up a Black Mage.
    Still feels like slightly different things though, Black Magic is more about controlling the elements, while Summoning is about calling entities, and Summoners don't directly use magic, they have the summoned monsters use magic for them.
    But maybe I'm looking too much into things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Yes, you are.
    What is your theory on the hints from FF4 and FFT, then?
    It definitely seems like Squaresoft were trying to imply that Summoners are essentially extra skilled Black Mages.

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    Or that these magic creatures that are being summoned are rooted in the elements. If you think about it most summons are elemental based creatures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *Laurelindo* View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Yes, you are.
    What is your theory on the hints from FF4 and FFT, then?
    It definitely seems like Squaresoft were trying to imply that Summoners are essentially extra skilled Black Mages.
    Don't have one, because I'm not reading too much into it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeloZer0 View Post
    Or that these magic creatures that are being summoned are rooted in the elements. If you think about it most summons are elemental based creatures.
    Well, that's true.
    Actually I always kind of viewed Summons as some type of "higher form of Black Magic", and saying that they are rooted in the elements would make sense.
    Of course, there are a few specials like Golem and Carbunkle, but theoretically those creatures can also be rooted in certain elements.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Don't have one, because I'm not reading too much into it .
    It isn't dangerous to present random theories about what you might have thought about it, though;
    you now, just for the sake of chatting about it for fun.
    But you don't have to if you absolutely don't want to.
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