Psychotic's argument is the only good argument for FFVII. And I'm tempted to agree. But then, like, dude Sabin suplexes a train, crane, brain, and all sorts of trout as the thread in the VI forum points out. Plus he has a move called Bum Rush. Sabin is pretty great and that's before you get to the rest of the cast. Smurfing Umaro man what is his deal.