The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey

[Freya]

I saw this again with my parents. This time in 3D. I did not like the 3D. I hate that it tries to make you focus on one thing when maybe I wanted to look at the pretty background, jerk 3D. I preferred the 2D for this film.

[Ouch!]

Well, when I saw it in 24 fps with my girlfriend New Years Eve, I didn't want to vomit this time around, so that's a plus!

[Mercen-X]

I didn't approve of the ending. Deathly Hallows Part 1 ended the same way but it had the excuse of being a Part 1.

[charliepanayi]

What was wrong with the ending specifically? And er...this is a part 1.

[Mercen-X]

It's not called "Part 1" at all though. (SPOILER)I mean at the end of Fellowship, the group was heading somewhere. Not all in the same direction obviously, but there they went (I originally still had a problem with that ending too actually). The end here... not so much. Dropped on a rock. I hated that kind of ending for DH too, but as I said, they get a pass for labeling the film "Part 1".

[The Man]

Neither was The Fellowship of the Ring. Neither was Star Wars: A New Hope (although that was labelled Episode IV in the opening crawl, and A New Hope wasn't even added into the official title until later, but anyway). It's still the first part of a trilogy, and no one involved in the production of the film has been even remotely coy about that fact. The Hobbit Part I: An Unexpected Journey would be an even more unwieldy title than the one they actually used. Just because it doesn't actually say Part I in the title doesn't mean it isn't still a Part I.

[Mercen-X]

The Hobbit was released as a single book. Lord of the Rings was released originally in three volumes. That may all still count as one book in Europe but in simple America, a single book is any one draft you can read cover to cover thus the second and third volumes would be considered second and third books which is why three films is better fitting for that particular title. Not that I care Hobbit is being made into multiple movies, I just didn't prefer the ending.

As for the whole Part 1 thing... I despise it altogether. Harry Potter and Twilight were good stories, but they didn't need to expand it the way they did... they were just milking another movie out of the franchise.

[blackmage_nuke]

It had a few pacing issues imo, I probably wouldve enjoyed it more if i hadnt read the book since I knew most of the jokes that were coming. I dont like that Bilbo had a packed bag wheras in the book he just ran straight out the door with the clothes on his back. Also the last bundle of dwarves to crash through the door didnt say "at your service"

[The Man]

This isn't just an adaptation of The Hobbit. It's an adaptation of The Hobbit plus large numbers of canonical supplemental material Tolkien wrote that isn't included in The Hobbit. Again, the filmmakers haven't really been making any secret of this.

[blackmage_nuke]

The eagles cant fly the ring all the way to Mordor. The eye would have seen the eagles approaching and imediately dispatched his Nazgul on Fellbeasts to intercept them and if they lost the fight, all would be lost. It was safer the Frodo to travel on foot, where it is much harder for the Eye of Sauron to see him.

As for why the eagles dont fly the Dwarves to the lonely mountain, well the matters of Dwarves are hardly thier concern. Its not like the countries of our world would waste resources to find oil reserves for another country. They intervened to save thier lives as a request from Gandalf but they are not tools nor slaves to be called upon every time someone wants a quick ride. It's like when a relative breaks thier computer and asks you to fix it for free, you might be generous the first few times but after a while you feel it is not your problem anymore. And im sure eagles have been dealing with "hey can i get a quick ride" bulltrout from all of middle earth for thousands of years.

If anyone was a dick it was the elf who marched his entire army to the mountain then left. I get that you dont want to help but theres no need to rub your entire army in the Dwarf's faces.

[Loony BoB]

Haven't read all of the thread, but did anyone else think that the burning tree moment's music had so much Liberi Fatali / One Winged Angel going for it? I couldn't help but laugh at the time. I'm sure it's more that all three songs are mutually influenced by something else, but yeah, good times.

Lord of the Rings is technically six books, three volumes, one story.

I found the movie wonderfully enjoyable.

EDIT: In response to Ouch! - particularly the last bit in his post - I actually found Return of the King to be embarrassing and feel The Hobbit is much, much better.

[Mercen-X]

I went in with low expectations for this movie which I think is partly why I enjoyed it so much. I'm buggered by the ending, sure, but that's mainly because we were introduced to three antagonists throughout the film and none of them were dealt with. Instead we deal with an antagonist we've never met, never heard of, and never seen until this second in the film. Then the movie ends. What the f? Couldn't even deal with the alborc before the credits rolled..? shi-

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The eagles cant fly the ring all the way to Mordor. The eye would have seen the eagles approaching and imediately dispatched his Nazgul on Fellbeasts to intercept them and if they lost the fight, all would be lost. It was safer the Frodo to travel on foot, where it is much harder for the Eye of Sauron to see him.

As for why the eagles dont fly the Dwarves to the lonely mountain, well the matters of Dwarves are hardly thier concern. Its not like the countries of our world would waste resources to find oil reserves for another country. They intervened to save thier lives as a request from Gandalf but they are not tools nor slaves to be called upon every time someone wants a quick ride. It's like when a relative breaks thier computer and asks you to fix it for free, you might be generous the first few times but after a while you feel it is not your problem anymore. And im sure eagles have been dealing with "hey can i get a quick ride" bulltrout from all of middle earth for thousands of years.

If anyone was a dick it was the elf who marched his entire army to the mountain then left. I get that you dont want to help but theres no need to rub your entire army in the Dwarf's faces.

Wha... is this responding to something?

[The Man]

The antagonists in LotR weren't dealt with in the first film either. I'm not really bothered by it.

[Del Murder]

Well, Fellowship did have that one lead Uruk-hai that hunted the fellowship, and he was then beheaded by Aragorn. Two Towers had the armies of Saruman taken out at Helm's Deep and Saruman was pretty much defeated by the end of that movie.

I would have liked to see Azog taken down in this film. Then his son could lead in the battle of five armies.

[blackmage_nuke]

*click*
The eagles cant fly the ring all the way to Mordor. The eye would have seen the eagles approaching and imediately dispatched his Nazgul on Fellbeasts to intercept them and if they lost the fight, all would be lost. It was safer the Frodo to travel on foot, where it is much harder for the Eye of Sauron to see him.

As for why the eagles dont fly the Dwarves to the lonely mountain, well the matters of Dwarves are hardly thier concern. Its not like the countries of our world would waste resources to find oil reserves for another country. They intervened to save thier lives as a request from Gandalf but they are not tools nor slaves to be called upon every time someone wants a quick ride. It's like when a relative breaks thier computer and asks you to fix it for free, you might be generous the first few times but after a while you feel it is not your problem anymore. And im sure eagles have been dealing with "hey can i get a quick ride" bulltrout from all of middle earth for thousands of years.

If anyone was a dick it was the elf who marched his entire army to the mountain then left. I get that you dont want to help but theres no need to rub your entire army in the Dwarf's faces.

Wha... is this responding to something?

There were some people in this thread complainging about eagles. I didnt quote them.