Dark Cloud 2 and DQV are both awesome games. I'm starting to agree with this list a bit more as you work your way to the top.
"Repent your sins through death!" - Ramirez - Skies of Arcadia
After playing the excellent Dragon Quest 4, I wasn't quite ready for what I found in DQ5. First of all both the DS and the SNES version share the disappointment in hardly surpassing their predecessor technologically at all, the latter of which was coming off an NES game for crying out loud. The sound also is incredibly uninspiring for me, and I'm a massive fan of the soundtracks. And whereas DQ4 is filled to the brim with fresh ideas, unconventional gameplay and endless distractions, none of this is present in DQ5. The casino is easily the most generic in the series and you can tell how hard they failed with the monster recruiting considering they gave it up halfway through and revert to patty's pub as some kind of half asst apology to dq3 fans. And it doesn't help that in a series infamous for its predictable plots, the most shocking plot twist they could muster (SPOILER)*gasp* you're not the legendary hero! is marred by the most predictable counter-plot twist imaginable (SPOILER)your son's the legendary hero. But this game didn't just fail because it stayed within the DQ boundaries, it actually failed for trying to deviate from the formula as well. Each part of the story ends with an "emotional moment" that, for all its 2d charm, just falls flat. Maybe it's because I played FFVI and Chrono Trigger beforehand, games which embodied the 16-bit emotional setpiece moment, but I just couldn't empathize with any of DQV's forced attempts to pull it off. In the Zenithian Trilogy, you have a game with a captivating character chapter system, a game with an addictive character class system, and a subpar disappointment sandwiched between them, with its vanilla "we got nothin" character system and a trout-ass plot to boot.
For real, smurf this game, smurf Neocracker, smurf Yuji Horii and the next sixteen non-FFVII entries on this terrible garbage of a list.
I've tried Your Mum (that's the spelling of the game title over here) and it was a terrible experience. It's very, very rare that I would quit so early into a game but it was so unsatisfying I was getting the feeling it would scar me for life. Gives 'sandbox' a whole new meaning. Award Guy plays Your Sister all the time, but he never lets me have a go.![]()
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
Was going to make a comment on your daughter but I think that was a little too out of line.
Forward, the Light Brigade!'
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho'(though) the soldiers knew
Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.
I know the date, I'd just been waiting for a good chance to use that clip.![]()
Pft, whatever, she was probably the one who gave me the sword.![]()
"Ridiculous! I'd never..."
"Hey, wait a second... I do
remember you giving away
a +5 sword a long time ago."
"Okay, the sword was just slowing me down
so I had to get rid of it anyway. And...
I accidently pressed the wrong buttons
...and stuff. It was early in the morning
and I, er... just wasn't thinking straight."
"Daaaaaw, Bern's getting soft!"
"Shut up, or I'll rip you a new one
with my Fire Great Scythe +10!"
In her defense, this game is crueler and sadistic to it's players then any invading player could hope to be. The only thing one could do is assist another player in an attempt to spite the game itself. I mean if you run around screwing with other players all you are doing is doing what the game wants you to do anyway. And regardless, you pushing similarly leveled players off Cliffs is nothing compared to walking down an area near beginning game to get one shot by a giant armored man with a sword three times your size and moves faster then you. But since talk seems focused on Dark Souls, which is already a massive ongoing thread, I'll jump to the next set early!
16.Wild Arms 2 (PSX)
This is the high point of the Wild Arms series for me. There has never been an RPG that so wonderfully captures a Wild West feel like this game did. Even among the quality of the series, this stands out as the most appealing and unique from a purely aesthetic stand point. There really isn’t a game out there that possesses a feel quite like this one.
Also one of the best stories of the PSX era of gaming, there is a wonderful twist that comes near games end about the origin’s of the villain group Odessa. I wasn’t really fond of who the end boss ended up being, if only because there was this odd mix of him being set up for the position of end boss, yet didn’t really have an effect on the story overall. Still though, not letting that hiccup ruin an overall wonderful experience.
It may be fairly typical in terms of gameplay, but the FP system used in favor of TP was fun, as well as two of your characters able to customize the growth of their ARMS abilities. As well you have Tim’s unique premise of having abilities that are altered by not only his own equipped guardian, but allies as well. So it may do a bit of an old school formula, it does it well with fun variation thrown in to keep it entertaining and new.
Also the game has some very well made puzzle maps, and I felt that it was like the 3D version of what had been done with Lufia 2, and done very well. I kind of miss such well designed puzzle dungeons, but alas, it may just be a pipe dream.
If I were to pick a highlight, it’s the resolution to Brad Evan’s story. He comes to his own conclusions about what a Hero really is, what it means, and it’s relevance. It sounds clique’d, but it’s a take that makes a hell of a lot of sense, and you don’t really see come up. Not to mention Kaanon has a wonderful history and character. The game can feel a bit dated today, but not by much. And hey, it’s available on PSN if you are an RPG fan who hasn’t checked it out yet!
15. Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen (SNES)
I will put this out here and now, no game has ever done a morality system better then Ogre Battle. Yes, there is some flaws in it’s execution, but I absolutely love the mix of Alignment (How good and evil you are), Reputation (How Good and evil the world perceives you), and Charisma. As it should be, so much get’s factored into it, and it works a hell of a lot better then a simple binary good and evil scale. The only game that even starts to come close I’ve played is New Vegas and it’s Karma for different areas and factions.
This is going to be a bit odd when compared to other games this high on the list, but this game doesn’t really do to well with characters. No one really get’s much spotlight outside of a few villains. The feel for the world however is very well done, and you get a lot of that from liberating towns across the different maps and seeing what the villagers thing of what’s going on. The story, on a whole, is pretty simple but very well told.
This game get’s by almost purely on gameplay though. There isn’t another game out there like Ogre Battle I’ve scene, and that saddens me greatly. Cause as wonderful as it is, there is a lot that can be improved upon, but I digress. The gameplay really helps to make you feel as if you are a commander of the army, the leader.
So many options exist for army creation, and there exists very few units that are usable that don’t have use of some kind. The maps are fun, and even very challenging from Zenobia onward.
And get this, 13 different endings. For an SNES game, that is insane. Based of the Morality system mentioned earlier, characters collected, and mystic artifacts recovered, it’s wonderful to see all the different ways your rebellion turns out. The very first one for me was taking over only to get assassinated by the original exiled prince.![]()
Okay BoB, you need to make a list of all the games on this you have played.
Cause The rest aren't likely to be on that list, outside a couple. :P