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    Nom nom nom You've Earned your dues!

    So one of the more interesting but overlooked traditions of the FF series is letting a prominent boss monster finally become a summon.

    Titan was a minor story enemy you had to face in FFI to proceed but became one of the Summons in FFIII.

    FFIV allowed you to summone enemy staples Goblins, Mindflayers, Cockitrices and the Bomb

    Golem was a pretty common enemy in the first four FFs and finally got upgraded into FFV's most useful summon.

    Cait Sith was a minor enemy in FFII and FFIV, while if you go by the original Kanji, Midgard Zolom is a late game regualr enemy in the World of Darkness

    FFVII made Chupon/Typhon into a summon.

    FFVIII upgraded new enemy favorites Cactaur and Tonberry into summons. It also granted summoner status to Minotaur from FFV, and Cerberus from FFIII, and its very likely that Doomtrain is a reference to FFVI's Phantom Train boss. Let's also not forget Gilgamesh!

    IX gave us Atomos from FFV

    FFX gave us the obvious Magus Sisters but also possibly upgraded Yojimbo who was a nasty enemy encounter in FFV and VI respectively.

    FFXI finally gave Garudo from FFIII's its dues

    FFXII upgraded all of the Lucavi from FFtactics into summons but also ExDeath, Zeromus, and Chaos

    FFXIII gave us Hecatoncheir from FFIII, XIII's version is surprisingly closer to the real myth version of the beast instead of FFIII's version.

    So with all that said, what enemy/boss would you like to see get upgraded into a future summon for the series?

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    For regular enemies, I would love to see Behemoth finally become a summon, as well as the Movers from FFV. Brachiosaur would also be pretty cool.

    For bosses, I'm hoping to see Hyne become a summon, Ultros would be pretty cool as well, same with Demon Wall. I would really love to see Ultima/Atma Weapon become a summon as well.

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    I agree w/ everything both of you said. XD I think I'd like to see a Promathia summon. lol.

    Also, Midgard Zolom is just a bastardization of Midgardsormr, aka Jormungand. :x

    EDIT: Oh, wait. I only agree with Del if he means the cute ones from XI.
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    Warmech!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeloZer0 View Post
    Warmech!
    Oh man, this is a great one. Some of FFI's other bosses would be good, too, like Kraken (although hopefully the summon version would be stronger than a one-eyed squirrel armed with a piece of wet spaghetti...).

    And like WK, I would also like to see Behemoth as a summon.

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    ^ Why settle for just Kraken, pull a FFX/Magus Sisters and just make the Four Fiends into the game's ultimate super summon. Hell thinking of that, Rubicante could be pretty awesome as well.

    So far what I'm thinking...

    FF - Four Fiends and Warmech
    FFII - Behemoth, Iron Giant
    FFIII - Hyne and maybe Ahiram or the Nepto Serpent
    FFIV - Rubicante, Scarlimogne, Demon Wall and Antlion.
    FFV - Gil Snapper, Enuo, Archeoaevis
    FFVI - Ultros, Dream Stooges, Warring Triad, Ultima Weapon
    FFVII - Aps, Rapps, Jenova, Godo, Guard Scorpion
    FFVIII - Elvoret, Griever, PuPu,
    FFIX - Black Waltzes, Yan, Gizamaluke
    FFX- Geosgaeno, Sin, Nemesis
    FFXI - Sahdow Lord, Promethia, Shantatto, Lilith Ascendant
    FFXII - Elder Wyrm, Fury, The Undying, Shadowseer, the Archadean Judges a la KotR style
    FFXIII- Barthandelus, Vercingetorix
    FFXIV - Nael van Darnus, Good King Moggle Mog XII

    General - Biggs and Wedge should finbally be upgraded to summon status as well.

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    I think thematically demon wall would be a great one. It could even be a fun one that just buffs your party with protect/shell/haste and does some damage to the enemy.

    Warring Triad could also be a cool 'unlock in parts' one similar to Crusader.
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    Shantotto would be the best summon ever. lol. They need her to be rhyming the entire 5 minute sequence though.


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    Absolute Virtue as a summon in FF15. Make it happen.

    Shadow lord is good too. Promathia would be weird, from a story perspective. Besides, he kind of looks like an Aern anyway, which is what Absolute Virtue also is.

    I hope Hecatoncheir makes a return in later Final Fantasy games as well.

    Making a mandragora trio or something would be cool too. It would be like magus sisters I guess but with mandies instead. There is a lot of mandragora lore (?) available if you combine FF11 and FF12. The design of them is similar in both games, and both games have them as sort of a self aware plant race. The ones in FF11 even know how to craft tiny bark vests that they wear. They are also known to occasionally be neutral or friendly in FF11, not always your enemy.

    The cutest thing ever is when you go to the past in FF11 and Lycopodium mandragoras follow you around just out of curiosity, without attacing you. I think I had like 12 of them standing in a circle around me once.

    I mean just look at them.
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    I'm so glad Garuda made the transition to a summon in FFXI. That's my girl!

    I think it's time. Cid has been a great many things in the series. It's time he was a summon. Cid in an airship raining down vengeance on one's foes? Hell yes.

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    I would love to see Behemoths become summons.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chionos View Post
    I'm so glad Garuda made the transition to a summon in FFXI. That's my girl!

    I think it's time. Cid has been a great many things in the series. It's time he was a summon. Cid in an airship raining down vengeance on one's foes? Hell yes.
    Garuda has dat ass. I totally use her most of the time, unless the situation calls for some specific types of damage. She is also one of the best physical damage avatars, being the only avatar to be able to haste herself, and having a strong critical-based physical blood pact.
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    Shin-Ryu from FF V and... can't think of anything else.


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    Phunbaba and Doomgaze could have been awesome summons down the line. Adding another +1 for Behemoth too.

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    Hein and Thanatos from III.
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