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    Default What was some of your favorite FF allusions and references?

    Cause this game is chock full of them.

    I love the Key Items in Treno that reference Doga, Unne, and Gogo. Running into Gilgamesh was pretty cool as well. Though discovering Dagger's true name is Sarah was probably one of the more nostalgic ones for me.

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    considering this wasnt even originally supposed to be a numbered entry, instead it was supposed to be a tribute, naturly its chock full of references... now admittedly i didnt get very far in the game but i did get a kick out of the band practicing President Rufus ShinRa's inauguration music...


    "this isnt the greatest song in the world, no, its just a tribute"

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    >>> Unne´s mirror was kind of surprising. Last time I checked the guy was into slabs not mirrors..
    >> The black orb glitters ominously... but nothing happens..

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    The title.
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    Nova Dragon was supposed to be named Shinryu which is an allusion to the best FF of all time
    Also the Boco card

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    Quote Originally Posted by black orb View Post
    >>> Unne´s mirror was kind of surprising. Last time I checked the guy was into slabs not mirrors..
    I always just figured that it's actually a reference to Unei, from Final Fantasy III, considering that Doga also came from that game.

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    My favorite references out of the billion that are in this game:

    Generic references
    Bass line of the battle theme and melody of the victory theme from the first six games
    Using a gold chocobo to access some hidden island that isn't visible on the map
    Garnet's coat in the beginning is a white mage's outfit
    Vivis' outfit is that of a generic black mage
    Random NPCs wearing red mage outfits
    The theme of crystals being a source of power throughout the world/universe
    The toymaker who made the Mini- Burmecia, Brahne, and Cid figurines is named Gogo (mime from FF5/FF6)
    "No cloud, no squall shall hinder us!"

    FF1
    Mount Gulug/Gurgu Volcano music
    Ice Cavern
    Garnet's real name is Sa­­rah and her mother is named Jane, like Queen Jayne and Princess Sa­ra­h
    Princess Cornelia from the play likely being a reference to Corneria
    The Beautiful Potion and Strange Potion descriptions both mention Matoya
    The Four Fiends
    The Rat Tail

    FF2
    Hilda is named after the resistance leader
    The Hilgigars (Hill Gigas) enemy
    Pandemonium (and the music that plays there)
    The story that Ramuh asks you to put together when you meet him is based on part of the storyline
    "Once upon a time, 33 small countries fought together against an empire. One day, a rebel troop visited a man named Joseph, who lived with his daughter. Owing a debt to the troop, he gladly accepted their pleas for help. They headed for a cavern in the snow field. With Joseph's help, the troop defeated the Adamantoise in the snow field cavern and acquired the Goddess Bell they needed to enter the empire's castle. On their way home, they fell into a trap set by a traitor. Joseph gave his life to save the troop. The troop left without telling Joseph's daughter, Nelly, about the tragedy. Historian's explanation: Although Joseph's death was not reported to his daughter, the manner of his death speaks for itself. This is the story of a true hero."


    FF3
    The Invincible
    Une's Mirror and Doga's Artifact (and their affect on the music player at the Black Mage Village)
    Thematic parallelism between Kuja and Xande (and Necron and Cloud of Darkness)
    Both fearing their mortality, Xande and Kuja unintentionally perform globally-perilous actions that lead both Necron and Cloud of Darkness to enter into the mortal realm and decide to revert the world to nothingness. Also, both Necron and Cloud of Darkness did not show up until the ending story as well as appearing as a final boss. The final boss music accompanying these encounters is also structurally similar.

    Moogles obviously

    FF4 (a lot of good ones)
    Kain's Lance as a weapon
    Zorn and Thorn using Palom and Porom's Twincast ability to let each other cast Flare and Comet/Meteorite
    Namingway Card and its function
    Cid's last name
    The appearance of the first Hilda Garde ship looks a lot like the Lunar Whale
    The Antlion that's supposedly tame but attacks a prince
    There are two moons in FF4, referenced in the Ultimania as the Gaia and Terra moons; one is red, and one is blue
    Zidane and Kuja's relationship is somewhat similar to that of Cecil and Golbez, being brothers from another world
    Vivi uses Fire to melt an ice blockade, like Rydia
    The destruction of the summoner tribe
    The old man who gives the player the Excalibur in exchange for the Magical Fingertip is Kokuro (the dwarven blacksmith from FF4)
    "Rally-Ho!"

    FF5
    Boco card and Bobby Corwen
    The icon on the Airship card (or maybe that's also from FF4?)
    The moogle theme playing at Mognet Central
    Gilgamesh
    Kuja's Theme and the melody from this song
    The Lancer Ability
    Using the item Soft to instantly kill enemies made of stone
    Tantarian's resemblance to the book monsters (the cover has images of Page 128 and Page 256, while Tantarian itself looks like Page 64)
    Grand Cross spell
    Necron's resemblance to the Necrophobe enemy
    Nova Dragon as Shinryu
    Atomos obviously
    The Stellazio lady is named Stella, which was the name of Bartz's mother
    And didn't summoners have hats with horns on them in FF5?

    FF6
    Trance ability
    A man in Lindblum named Locke
    Madeen/Maduin
    Mog
    The Ahriman enemy is named Veteran again
    Flare Star
    The three statues in the Desert Palace
    The menu screen calls the area around the Chocobo Forest the King Ed Plains
    Alexandria has a astatue commemorating General Madelene (Madelina was Terra's mother)
    Eidolons are acquired through gemstones the same way espers are learned from magicite
    Also I think FF6 was the first appearance of Ultima Weapon

    FF7
    The band playing Rufus's Welcoming March ("Hey, not bad!")
    Buster Sword in the Lindblum weapon shop
    Little girl in Lindblum named Elena
    Climhazzard
    Using chocobo footprints
    Kupo Nuts
    Similar foundational life cycle (when someone dies, their soul/Mako returns to the planet's Crystal/Lifestream)

    FF8
    Amarant's No Mercy ability is Seifer's Limit Break (and they look similar)
    Quina's Eat command

    FFT
    Reis's Wind and Cherry Blossom
    A bunch of Steiner's attacks
    A ridiclous number of item names (Robe of Lords, Germinas Boots, Maximillian, Save the Queen, etc.)
    Auto-Potion support ability

    Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon
    One of the Mognet moogles is named Atla

    Parasite Eve
    In the Lindblum Synth Shop, the owner is named Torres, and the man at the counter is named Wayne. These were the two people in the NYPD weapons room. In addition, when you first enter the said shop, the two of them have a skirmish which is practically the same as the "safety vs. power" lecture you overhear when you first enter the NYPD weapons room.

    Vagrant Story
    The Alexandria barkeep is named Ashley, and has a very familiar hairdo

    Other stuff
    "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a miracle worker!" - man near the air cab station in Lindblum; Star Trek
    "Resistance is futile" - Black Waltz #2; also Star Trek
    "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Necron; Star Wars
    Marcus and Blank referred to as "those good ol' boys" by Ruby; Dukes of Hazzard
    "I'm Kupo for Kupo Nuts!" - one of the moogles; Cocoa Puffs
    "Great Scott!" - man being chased during the Festival of the Hunt; Back to the Future
    Shakespearean references - Prince Puck, I Want To Be Your Canary, the character of King Leo (King Lear), and the author "Lord Avon" (as Shakespeare was called the Bard of Avon)
    Jabberwock and Bandersnatch - Lewis Carroll's Jabberwocky
    The relationship between part-Time Worker Mary and Jobless Jeff (owners of the Vega and Altair shops, respectively) mirrors the Tanabata legend
    The Cleyra dance ceremony is obviously traditional Irish dance, thus Fratley is probably named after Michal Flatley
    Madain Sari is named after a pre-Islamic archaeological site in Saudi Arabia called Mada'in Saleh; in the Qur'an, the people of Mada'in Saleh were a tribe that fell to the worshipping of idols.
    The statue of General Madelene that I mentioned earlier may refer to Joan of Arc
    Tantalus is named after a large volcanic crater in Honolulu, near the area where a great deal of FF9 was developed


    They've all been pointed out countless times before, but these are my favorites of the bunch. It's the little things in life.
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    Why did Gogo have to get his finger chopped off

    Kain's Lance was pretty neat too.
    You think a minor thing like the end of the world was gonna do me in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigmafuzz View Post
    My favorite references out of the billion that are in this game:

    Generic references
    Bass line of the battle theme and melody of the victory theme from the first six games
    Using a gold chocobo to access some hidden island that isn't visible on the map
    Garnet's coat in the beginning is a white mage's outfit
    Vivis' outfit is that of a generic black mage
    Random NPCs wearing red mage outfits
    The theme of crystals being a source of power throughout the world/universe
    The toymaker who made the Mini- Burmecia, Brahne, and Cid figurines is named Gogo (mime from FF5/FF6)
    "No cloud, no squall shall hinder us!"

    FF1
    Mount Gulug/Gurgu Volcano music
    Ice Cavern
    Garnet's real name is Sa­­rah and her mother is named Jane, like Queen Jayne and Princess Sa­ra­h
    Princess Cornelia from the play likely being a reference to Corneria
    The Beautiful Potion and Strange Potion descriptions both mention Matoya
    The Four Fiends
    The Rat Tail

    FF2
    Hilda is named after the resistance leader
    The Hilgigars (Hill Gigas) enemy
    Pandemonium (and the music that plays there)
    The story that Ramuh asks you to put together when you meet him is based on part of the storyline
    "Once upon a time, 33 small countries fought together against an empire. One day, a rebel troop visited a man named Joseph, who lived with his daughter. Owing a debt to the troop, he gladly accepted their pleas for help. They headed for a cavern in the snow field. With Joseph's help, the troop defeated the Adamantoise in the snow field cavern and acquired the Goddess Bell they needed to enter the empire's castle. On their way home, they fell into a trap set by a traitor. Joseph gave his life to save the troop. The troop left without telling Joseph's daughter, Nelly, about the tragedy. Historian's explanation: Although Joseph's death was not reported to his daughter, the manner of his death speaks for itself. This is the story of a true hero."


    FF3
    The Invincible
    Une's Mirror and Doga's Artifact (and their affect on the music player at the Black Mage Village)
    Thematic parallelism between Kuja and Xande (and Necron and Cloud of Darkness)
    Both fearing their mortality, Xande and Kuja unintentionally perform globally-perilous actions that lead both Necron and Cloud of Darkness to enter into the mortal realm and decide to revert the world to nothingness. Also, both Necron and Cloud of Darkness did not show up until the ending story as well as appearing as a final boss. The final boss music accompanying these encounters is also structurally similar.

    Moogles obviously

    FF4 (a lot of good ones)
    Kain's Lance as a weapon
    Zorn and Thorn using Palom and Porom's Twincast ability to let each other cast Flare and Comet/Meteorite
    Namingway Card and its function
    Cid's last name
    The appearance of the first Hilda Garde ship looks a lot like the Lunar Whale
    The Antlion that's supposedly tame but attacks a prince
    There are two moons in FF4, referenced in the Ultimania as the Gaia and Terra moons; one is red, and one is blue
    Zidane and Kuja's relationship is somewhat similar to that of Cecil and Golbez, being brothers from another world
    Vivi uses Fire to melt an ice blockade, like Rydia
    The destruction of the summoner tribe
    The old man who gives the player the Excalibur in exchange for the Magical Fingertip is Kokuro (the dwarven blacksmith from FF4)
    "Rally-Ho!"

    FF5
    Boco card and Bobby Corwen
    The icon on the Airship card (or maybe that's also from FF4?)
    The moogle theme playing at Mognet Central
    Gilgamesh
    Kuja's Theme and the melody from this song
    The Lancer Ability
    Using the item Soft to instantly kill enemies made of stone
    Tantarian's resemblance to the book monsters (the cover has images of Page 128 and Page 256, while Tantarian itself looks like Page 64)
    Grand Cross spell
    Necron's resemblance to the Necrophobe enemy
    Nova Dragon as Shinryu
    Atomos obviously
    The Stellazio lady is named Stella, which was the name of Bartz's mother
    And didn't summoners have hats with horns on them in FF5?

    FF6
    Trance ability
    A man in Lindblum named Locke
    Madeen/Maduin
    Mog
    The Ahriman enemy is named Veteran again
    Flare Star
    The three statues in the Desert Palace
    The menu screen calls the area around the Chocobo Forest the King Ed Plains
    Alexandria has a astatue commemorating General Madelene (Madelina was Terra's mother)
    Eidolons are acquired through gemstones the same way espers are learned from magicite
    Also I think FF6 was the first appearance of Ultima Weapon

    FF7
    The band playing Rufus's Welcoming March ("Hey, not bad!")
    Buster Sword in the Lindblum weapon shop
    Little girl in Lindblum named Elena
    Climhazzard
    Using chocobo footprints
    Kupo Nuts
    Similar foundational life cycle (when someone dies, their soul/Mako returns to the planet's Crystal/Lifestream)

    FF8
    Amarant's No Mercy ability is Seifer's Limit Break (and they look similar)
    Quina's Eat command

    FFT
    Reis's Wind and Cherry Blossom
    A bunch of Steiner's attacks
    A ridiclous number of item names (Robe of Lords, Germinas Boots, Maximillian, Save the Queen, etc.)
    Auto-Potion support ability

    Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon
    One of the Mognet moogles is named Atla

    Parasite Eve
    In the Lindblum Synth Shop, the owner is named Torres, and the man at the counter is named Wayne. These were the two people in the NYPD weapons room. In addition, when you first enter the said shop, the two of them have a skirmish which is practically the same as the "safety vs. power" lecture you overhear when you first enter the NYPD weapons room.

    Vagrant Story
    The Alexandria barkeep is named Ashley, and has a very familiar hairdo

    Other stuff
    "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a miracle worker!" - man near the air cab station in Lindblum; Star Trek
    "Resistance is futile" - Black Waltz #2; also Star Trek
    "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Necron; Star Wars
    Marcus and Blank referred to as "those good ol' boys" by Ruby; Dukes of Hazzard
    "I'm Kupo for Kupo Nuts!" - one of the moogles; Cocoa Puffs
    "Great Scott!" - man being chased during the Festival of the Hunt; Back to the Future
    Shakespearean references - Prince Puck, I Want To Be Your Canary, the character of King Leo (King Lear), and the author "Lord Avon" (as Shakespeare was called the Bard of Avon)
    Jabberwock and Bandersnatch - Lewis Carroll's Jabberwocky
    The relationship between part-Time Worker Mary and Jobless Jeff (owners of the Vega and Altair shops, respectively) mirrors the Tanabata legend
    The Cleyra dance ceremony is obviously traditional Irish dance, thus Fratley is probably named after Michal Flatley
    Madain Sari is named after a pre-Islamic archaeological site in Saudi Arabia called Mada'in Saleh; in the Qur'an, the people of Mada'in Saleh were a tribe that fell to the worshipping of idols.
    The statue of General Madelene that I mentioned earlier may refer to Joan of Arc
    Tantalus is named after a large volcanic crater in Honolulu, near the area where a great deal of FF9 was developed


    They've all been pointed out countless times before, but these are my favorites of the bunch. It's the little things in life.
    Dude, that is a lot of references man! I had no idea that Kuja's Theme and the Slumber of Anicent Earth sounded so familiar as both the Mountain Gulug songs.
    What about Garland though? Both Garlands from FFI and FFIX are antagonists. Is there any more differences that would be considered alluding?
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    My favorite reference is, of course, the fact that you once again may have four party members at once.

    I just wish they'd gone all out and made a game actually set in the world of the original Final Fantasy. Now that would have been something to see.

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