It's the first announcement... I think people are expecting far too much when it's the first official announcement of the console. As BoB said - they have a full year or more to drip feed us information.
One thing I'm curious about is that game controller. It's got a touch-screen on it's front, plus a very play-station move like Light bar over it's top.
It will be interesting to see how it will be used in the future.
Controller is bloody ugly I tell you what. It looks a bit like one of those dodgy third party controllers you'd get for the PS2.
Yeah, I'm waiting to see how the touchpad will be utilised. I can see some benefit to having it but it would be a rare thing and more suited to a flat platform (like a tablet) than a controller.
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Originally Posted by Formalhaut
I feel the real complaint is that fans and consumers don't want to be drip fed, rather we're interested in telling us what we are going to get from the start instead of speculating about launch titles and price points. For once, I would love a console maker to reveal their console 6 months before its actual release and just flat out tell us what to expect day one and not what to look forward to for the next ten years. When did video game consoles become presidential elections?
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Yeah, that controller looks ugly and like it will be hard to use properly with the touchpad. My first thought is that it will be pretty gimmicky since it'd be hard to make that seem natural to gameplay.
I see your point; definitely they could have arranged the order of their telling differently. The way they did it, they led with the technical details, like the chip being used, all of the hardware stuff that I don't really quite get my head around. What they should have done for a first, initial announcement is to lead with the software, games etc.
It's the software, games, etc. that will more interest gamers, not the hardware statistics and whatnot. I'm not exactly an expert on mechanics and stuff, so for your average gamer leading with hardware and developerships is warranting a "Well, okay, that's fine, but what about the games?"
I'm not disappointed, I'm still excited for it, but I'll need more first to commit.
The touch pad in the centre of the controller reminds me slightly of the Wii U's controller. It doesn't seem that hard to use, at least in my opinion. And also; everyone say's that the controller looks ugly, but is the aesthetics of the controller really that important in the grand scheme of things? As long as it works and is used well in games, it could be brightly coloured yellow for all I care.
To those complaining about a lack of details: This early announcement was entirely to build hype and build stockholder confidence. Like every launch you can expect the lion's share of details to come out at E3. This was just PR for the business side of things. I think it's silly to really expect much more than that from an event that isn't one of the big industry cons like E3/TGC/Gamescom.
I'm still excited for the technical implications of this. We're definitely witnessing the approach of a singularity in terms of target hardware; by having more open platforms for porting, the big console companies will have to do more creative things to draw users to their machine in particular, which I think will push innovation in services and peripherals. Which is pretty damn cool to me.
I'm also a long-time Playstation fan so I'm biased but goddamn do we live in exciting times for gamers.
They actually showed us gameplay for quite a few launch titles.
So long as we're relying on these three major manufacturers for hardware and services I don't see a whole lot of innovation coming from them. At least not useful innovation. Let's really stop and think about this for a second: does anyone expect useful innovation to come from these guys with their closed platforms?
Nintendo tried with the Wii but motion controls are a bit of a dead end. A nice way to get the non-gamer into games somewhat intuitively maybe, but that's about it. And it didn't even really succeed at that. Sure, it got a lot of people outside the traditional game market to buy Wii's, but they never really got that to translate into retaining them and getting them to buy games. And faced with this attempt at innovation that never really took off or showed much potential to be honest, what was the reaction from Microsoft and Sony? Let's put out our own motion control solutions several years after them, which, while technically superior or at least different in a lot of ways, didn't have any idea where to go from the base product that Nintendo put out.
Fast forward to last year and this year and what are we seeing? Nintendo didn't really know where to take motion control either, so instead they left it as it was on the Wii and decided to ape touch screen tablets by sticking one in the controller. At best it's a retread of ground they already covered with the DS with no obvious improvements (if anything it's worse since you can't keep the controller and TV in your field of view at all times making using both simultaneously a pain to say the least), and at worst it's an attempt to latch onto the "it" thing in electronics for the last few years. Meanwhile, we've got Sony making a push on social features, adding touch screens/pads to controllers without bothering to explain how this is a benefit to the player or showing them in use, and building some motion control into the dual shock (again). Because what the innovation the market needed was more motion controls apparently.
And while some may consider it a bit early to count Microsoft out, if their businesses outside of gaming are any indication, they don't have a clue what they're doing 99% of the time and the 360 might have been a fluke. I'm not expecting much from the company that's spent the better part of the last decade trying, and often failing, to play catch up with their direct competitors, often after they spend years working on innovative technology before anyone else even starts thinking about it and still get beaten to market by years and with better products.
Honestly, the only future I really see for innovation, and something which may end up being inevitable, is a move to open hardware systems and utilizing services like Steam rather than buying consoles, while peripheral manufacturers maybe try and step in and partner with developers. I'm not saying it will definitely happen, but at some point we may find these big companies falling behind guys like Valve with Steam in terms of innovation (and recent financial troubles with companies like Sony do not make me feel good about their continuation in the hardware market), and more open hardware that gives developers more freedom supplanting their boxes.
Hell, if anything, there may already be an example of sorts with Android where this is happening. I could totally see a service provider creating the software and distribution system going forward, and letting multiple hardware manufacturers offer their own boxes, maybe partnering with one for the initial update and then letting it trickle down to everyone else. There's certainly precedent for it, and more open hardware with more competition is going to mean lower prices for consumers (hopefully). If Valve does release a Steam box eventually, that might even be the first step in going down a similar road to what Google did with Android.
Anyway, I'm just spit balling there. I just don't see a lot of innovation coming from the big three. Not without something making them all very, very scared first.
I'm always like 10 years behind on consoles. I just got a PS3 (for the second time this year xD )
It doesn't look like you can use it very fluidly. Considering that you shouldn't have to move your hand off the controller (or reach far from normal position) to use some of it's buttons/features, I think that's harder than it needs to be.The touch pad in the centre of the controller reminds me slightly of the Wii U's controller. It doesn't seem that hard to use, at least in my opinion. And also; everyone say's that the controller looks ugly, but is the aesthetics of the controller really that important in the grand scheme of things? As long as it works and is used well in games, it could be brightly coloured yellow for all I care.
You mean like the Wii U controller?It doesn't look like you can use it very fluidly. Considering that you shouldn't have to move your hand off the controller (or reach far from normal position) to use some of it's buttons/features, I think that's harder than it needs to be.The touch pad in the centre of the controller reminds me slightly of the Wii U's controller. It doesn't seem that hard to use, at least in my opinion. And also; everyone say's that the controller looks ugly, but is the aesthetics of the controller really that important in the grand scheme of things? As long as it works and is used well in games, it could be brightly coloured yellow for all I care.
For those of you wondering if the Killzone demo was pre-rendered or not, here's Jimmy Fallon playing it:
PlayStation 4 Demo of Killzone: Shadow Fall - YouTube
Looks like it's launch title!
Haha "I'm a gamer, I'm a geek". Looks like he never played a shooter in his life. Which is possible of course but hey, had to noticefun stuff though! And hurray for demo-immunity.
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