Why can nobody say anything nice about the NCR without having to talk trout about the Legion? Particularly when they're only two of four choices. The game is not about NCR v Legion. I don't get why you people can't seem to grasp that. It's not black and white. I don't choose either because they're both abysmal. It's the same choice: Join us or die.

Seeing as you all insist on bringing it back down to that level, I'm game. You know what? Yeah. Yeah, I'd rather be stabbed in the front by the Legion than in the back by the NCR. Would genuinely rather live under the Legion than NCR. Citizens in Legion controlled areas (yeah they don't enslave everyone like the NCR propaganda machine claims, who knew?) are actually much better off than the citizens of the NCR. Actual law and order is maintained - you wouldn't catch the likes of the Fiends existing on Legion territory. I mean hey, seeing as we're all so keen on "NCR are bad but not as bad as the Legion!" as our crutch, well, live by the sword, die by the sword: As bad as the Legion may be, I think we can all agree the Fiends are a whole 'nother level. The trout that happens to NCR citizens at the Fiends' hands doesn't happen in the Legion controlled lands. Oh, and they use resources of those they conquer to fuel their war effort rather than making the folks back home suffer. I mean hey, bad, but not as bad, right...?

As for Bitter Springs, oh no, the poor innocent NCR feel oh-so bad about the massacre. Well I guess that makes it okay to invade somebody else's land, smash the smurf out of them when they resist and then murder retreating women and children. Maybe your really valid point and i'm impressed by your thinking. (WESLEY MOORE MOTHERsmurfER YEEHAW) Mr. Caesar feels bad about slavery and that'll absolve him of that too.

Oh, and as for refugee camp, ho ho ho. I think not. As you may remember, the Khans are allied with Caesar's Legion. If you convince them to break this alliance and team up with the NCR, and you help NCR win, let's find out what happens to them.
After the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, the Great Khans returned for a time to Red Rock Canyon. The NCR's pressing need to expand proved greater than its promise of amnesty, and before long the government decided the Khans had to go. The surviving Great Khans were relocated to an isolated, barren reservation, well north of NCR trade routes
welp thanks for that NCR you clearly feel very guilty about your genocide.

But hey the Khans deserve it, right? The NCR aren't quite done there, oh no. They also drive the Followers out, they abandon Primm to get smurfed over if you asked them to help it (and the NCR lose, of course ), try to exterminate the Kings and their taxation forces people in Goodsprings out of their homes.

also lmao sarah "I knew you'd jump in and save us" xD That's what the people of Primm said to the NCR when they were too weak to fight their own battles. I am the Courier and I will save you all. No Gods, No Masters, smurf the NCR, smurf the Legion.