Mafia XXV: Action Movie Badasses Game Thread Day 6

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

It should be noted that Arnie's response actually gives me a townread on him.

Pro-massclaim: (4/7): Samuel L. Jackson, Nic Cage, Uma Thurman, Sylvester Stallone[/b]
Anti-massclaim:: The Governator

Firstclaim options
(4/7) Vin Diesel: Samuel L. Jackson, Nic Cage, Uma Thurman, Sylvester Stallone[/b]
(0/7) Nobody: The Governaror

[[M] Helo]

Yep, Bruce Willis has the way of it. I thought I made it pretty clear that I was a replacement yesterday.

Fair enough.

I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I'm going to get my vote down for now just in case I leave and don't make it back for a long time.

##vote: Vin

I don't remember seeing much of him early on, then he starts piping up yesterday, telling us to "not just lynch Statham right away", then when he's clearly boned piling the last vote on him to end the day? Sounds like mafia trying to secure a position as a "helpful townie" while really just delaying the lynch of Statham hoping something will come and take the heat off him.

Utterly weak.

Not even going to discuss the "oh no sudden change in behaviour!" lark again, but it kind of shows you've not even bothered to read my posts before accusing me.

Also, yeah "helpful townie" my foot. At no point did I say DO NOT EVER LYNCH STATHAM. I made it very clear that Statham should be lynched. There is no way on Earth Statham would've survived yesterday, so to say I was delaying it in the hope of a miracle is lunacy and you clutching at straws. Besides, if I was mafia, well, better a speed lynch and no discussion and you know it. Poor vote, sir, poor vote.

Anyway, I like the delightful irony in accusing me of "putting off the lynch of Statham". Remind me what you did for the past few days. Twice you were all ready to lynch him, and then backed down and defended him, and oh look, a mafia managed to survive, thanks in part to you, for several days longer than they should have. Didn't see me backing down yesterday, did you? I stuck to what I said I would do throughout. I think scum, when accusing people, look to scummy things they themselves have done, which is why you are accusing me of something YOU did to a much greater extent.

Oh, and now you have a role which you just can't prove. Ho hum.

##vote: Uma Thurman

Get lynched.

[[M] Helo]

@Eastwood: Top 3 scumreads and why pls.

@Vin Diesel Same question.

Uma Thurman, reason explained.

Sly Stallone OR Harrison Ford - Because they the half of the New Four that I do not know the role of. As explained yesterday, I am convinced one of the new four accounts has to be mafia for balancing reasons. Jet Li town, I know I'm town. I think one has a town power role and one is scum.

Clint Eastwood - until his vote for Uma today has given very little away, but I'm not really up in arms. He's only really here to finish the top three.

[[M] Helo]

One more thing.

I note your requests for me to roleclaim. Again, I have considered, and again I respectfully refuse.

I know my role. You lot don't. I think it is more beneficial to the town that my role remains secret for now. I am making an informed decision - the rest of you are not informed in your desire for me to claim. If you knew it, you might not want me to claim and regret having asked me. I may claim at some point, if I see the value in it. Indeed, I know of certain scenarios where I think me claiming helps the town. Presently, those scenarios are not in play.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

I am glad that drunk Cage has seemingly gone to bed

Because I'm making sense, or for some other reason? What is the other reason?

Why are you claiming a tracker-type role when your shrink-claim was so well accepted?

Your case on me is still trout. Do better.

I want you to go to bed because your studies of technique are not being appropriately applied. You want me to make a case against you? Your fervent desire for us to try and examine your behavior - which will result in an immaculately clean record - is trying too hard. You are trying too hard to appear like a town member. Given your relative quietness up until this point, I say that it is a deliberate tactic to appear so scummy that nobody would consider you a threat, thereby confirming your innocence. No true Mafia etc.

Quit the trout. Just quit distracting the town with your inane strategy. Take care of the role claim and go back to being quiet, I will not suffer your nonsense for any longer than necessary.

I will now read what I have missed and continue commenting.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Vin Diesel is not going to role claim. We've tried, and he is refusing. So we ignore him and continue as per usual; we can still glean plenty of information on Vin Diesel based on the other roles claimed. I want to hear from more people, and soon, because I am getting very tired of certain individuals (not just Nicolas Cage, mind you ) and want to hear from the less active players.

Vin Diesel: You will have to roleclaim eventually, and time is running out. Tick tock, my man. Don't leave it too late or you might appear too scummy to return to the light side.

##Unvote: [M] Sylvester Stallone
##Vote: [M] Uma Thurman

I am casting a bandwagon vote on Uma Thurman, just fyi. Hey Uma Thurman, do you remember when this happened?

I gave you my role, not the full description of its power. It would benefit the mafia to know why I have not killed anyone else yet, not the town. Just trust I won't be killing anyone today.

Oh, I get it.

Instead of intelligently pointing out that you wasted your shot, as most Day Vigilantes are One-shot and your "secrecy" clearly pointed to a "Hey mafia shoot me because I'm ~dangerous~" and revealed that you were now nerfed, I let you know that I understood what you were aiming for.

If Daniel Craig came and said "I'm x role and I was just doing y" we would have had some information. Some good information. I'm not a smurfing Tracker. But I took a punt based on a very specific theory which you ruined any chance of actually functioning. I know you like computers so let me try this:

IF Harrison Ford is Mafia, and is being Roleblocked by Bruce Willis
THEN Harrison Ford cannot Nightkill

IF Harrison Ford cannot Nightkill
THEN Unknown Mafia Member Y must Nightkill

Given the operating parameters of Samuel L Jackson, Bruce Willis, and Uma Thurman being near 100% cleared (in my personal program), and the additional parameters excluding Vin Diesel and Nicolas Cage, all I had to do was identify which of the three remaining people I wanted to poke.

IF they panicked and gave a troutty explanation
THEN I lynch the mothersmurfers

IF they acted completely unaware of what I was talking about
THEN it was a pointless exercise

IF they turned it around and attacked my credibility
THEN I lynch the mothersmurfers

Theoretically I should be voting for Nicolas Cage for his assault on my role claims, but you ruined my entire modus operandi for today and I am just SO MAD.

PS just to be a complete and utter dick, this was all an elaborate ruse to see who would try and hammer you so I could sacrifice your ass in exchange for victory But I'm not feeling particularly Town-aligned after the events of today and yesterday, so you all can go and stick it.

[[M] Dee]

I don't buy Uma's only one kill vigilante claim. The vigilante is pro-town but it is also suppose to put the town on edge. Should one person have that sort of unilateral power? The role is a rare town killing role and to only have just one kill and waste it stupidily on the first day is bulltrout when ain't trout been figured out. Why waste your one shot so early on?

Your claim somewhat made sense at the time with the Gameshow host but to not use that power or to blow it so early on seems to convenient. I made the mistake of helping to lynch the cop (but they didn't really do themself any favors) but I will not make that mistake again.

Basically, your role claim makes no sense.

##VOTE: Uma

Why does my role only having one shot "make no sense"? It's a common interpretation on the role. If you wanted to say that it was too convenient I'd understand that.

Cage you've gone from "I think your scum because I don't like your logic", to "I think yours scum because you sound ridiculous" which is never a very good reason for me to vote for someone.

##unvote:
##vote: Clint

Also of course I knew, you knew Sam. But I also didn't have to make it that clear for you. Hell I probably could've given you some small dick joke about my ninja blade and you would've understood it. My "revelation" was to bait out the last of the mob looking for an easy member to bandwagon on. Once again you were right about a member of the mob, as Clint deliciously took the bait and voted for me for just that. You damn bastard. Start being wrong.

[[M] Helo]

Well, in regards to my claim, I will gladly claim if Stallone and Ford also claim. And they claim first. I think one has a town power role, and one is mafia. I will gladly give up my resistance should they both put forward what they are.

The relevance, for those who have not been keeping up, is of course that we are the remaining three members of The New Four.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Uma Thurman I like the way we work together. I am still mad at you though and my vote will stay on there for at least another five minutes to show my disdain for your ruining of my gambit.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

I also forgot to mention that Arnold Schwarzenegger is in my operating limitations as a "probably townsman." His run in with Dwayne Johnson - as I believe Bruce Willis put it - was unlikely to be a ploy by the Mafia to separate the two.

[[M] Dee]

Uma Thurman I like the way we work together. I am still mad at you though and my vote will stay on there for at least another five minutes to show my disdain for your ruining of my gambit.

Either way I don't particularly care - to be honest I'd welcome death more openly if it wasn't getting so late in the game. I tried to kill you day one because the moment I saw my role I wanted to shoot you and be done with the game. I've wanted to get to daykill you since you revealed me in mafia like four or something >

[[M] Helo]

I also forgot to mention that Arnold Schwarzenegger is in my operating limitations as a "probably townsman." His run in with Dwayne Johnson - as I believe Bruce Willis put it - was unlikely to be a ploy by the Mafia to separate the two.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

It's the bald head! I swear!

[[M] Helo]

Also I'm disappointed that Sam didn't get daykill vig. Can you imagine? I WILL STRIKE DOWN WITH GREAT VENGEANCE AND FURIOUS ANGER...

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Look I'm sorry Vinny. Just count this as one of your 500 fights that you gotta have before you can consider yourself a real hardass.