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    I think I played some Fire Emblem back in the day. I don't remember enough of it to pass any sort of judgement on it. Regardless, since I don't remember it, it wouldn't go on my list anyway... same with any other strategy games I haven't played. I'm sure the list would be different if I'd played all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike View Post
    I think I played some Fire Emblem back in the day. I don't remember enough of it to pass any sort of judgement on it. Regardless, since I don't remember it, it wouldn't go on my list anyway... same with any other strategy games I haven't played. I'm sure the list would be different if I'd played all of them.
    I wasn't suggesting that it would go on your list, just that it might blur the line between straight tactics games and tactical RPGs.
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    Yes some games do straddle that line more finely than others! This does not invalidate the concept of genres!

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    I like what Pike said in the other thread about how these games, coming from two very different traditions, still arrived at a very similar outcome. I love both genres, but I would still keep them separate.

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    No Fire Emblem or Fire Emblem Awakening ?

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    I haven't played Fire Emblem in so long that I don't remember it and am not in a place to judge it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike View Post
    I haven't played Fire Emblem in so long that I don't remember it and am not in a place to judge it
    Oh Pike !

    Stop right there and go to Vizzed. Com and play them !!

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    I've played half of these games (1, 2, 3, 8, 10). I feel like I've earned my Pike badge. xD I've played a bit of Starcraft here and there, too, but I could never get into it for some reason. I think Warcraft beats it pretty easily for me, purely on the general feeling I get when playing it. It is to me what Hello Kitty is to many others out there. Just makes me go "d'awwwww" and want to cuddle it.
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    AC should be on ever top ten list ever. I mean every single one, not just video games. Top ten US presidents, SMAC. Top ten carbonated beverages, SMAC. Top ten ways to say "you get the idea", SMAC.

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    I have a question for Pike and the rest of you strategy game fans.

    I'm a big fan of Tactical RPGs, some of which I mentioned in this thread (FFT, TO, FE, etc.). In fact, this genre may even by my favorite game genre. Some of the things I like about it are the integration of RPG elements (story, characters, class/equipment systems) with the tactical gameplay. My question is, would I still enjoy the more 'traditional' strategy games that may be lacking the RPG elements?

    My main concern is the single player campaign in these games. Of the items on Pike's list I've only played AOE2. It's a really fun game, but only when you have someone to play with. Is that generally how strategy games are, or do some have involving single-player campaigns with characterization, story, etc.? I really have no interest in just doing random battle after battle if there are no characters or world to anchor myself to.

    FYI, the game I'm considering buying is XCOM Enemy Unknown, but you guys talk a big storm about SMAC all the time that I might try that one too.

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    As someone who doesn't really play normal strategy games, and is also a big fan of SRPG's, Enemy Unknown is pretty good. It has a distinctly different feel then an SRPG, The story is pretty sparce and basic, but servicable.

    The unit customization isn't is detailed as games like Tactics, but it's still existant and fun to play with.

    I think it would be likely you'd enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    I have a question for Pike and the rest of you strategy game fans.

    I'm a big fan of Tactical RPGs, some of which I mentioned in this thread (FFT, TO, FE, etc.). In fact, this genre may even by my favorite game genre. Some of the things I like about it are the integration of RPG elements (story, characters, class/equipment systems) with the tactical gameplay. My question is, would I still enjoy the more 'traditional' strategy games that may be lacking the RPG elements?

    My main concern is the single player campaign in these games. Of the items on Pike's list I've only played AOE2. It's a really fun game, but only when you have someone to play with. Is that generally how strategy games are, or do some have involving single-player campaigns with characterization, story, etc.? I really have no interest in just doing random battle after battle if there are no characters or world to anchor myself to.

    FYI, the game I'm considering buying is XCOM Enemy Unknown, but you guys talk a big storm about SMAC all the time that I might try that one too.
    RTS games such as AoE2 tend to lean themselves more towards multiplayer, but grand strategy, turn-based strategy, 4X, and turn-based tactics (XCOM falls under that last category) all work perfectly fine-- I'd argue better, in many cases-- in single-player.

    I should mention that grand strategy, turn-based and 4X games tend not to have a "campaign" per se, though. You play as one empire at a time... one "game" at a time, so to speak.

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    I don't know if you'll find a game amongst these with heavy characterization and plot like an SRPG, but Crusader Kings II kinda hits that mark since it's essentially a game all about characters. You're scheming and plotting against your vassals, your liege lord, your uncles, mercenary captains, and your own councillors, all the while they're doing the same thing against you and against eachother. It's probably the best exemplar of emergent narrative in gaming yet.

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    Yeah, most of these games don't involve preset characters or plot. You get to make up your own, and your own goals, instead

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