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    If we don't mention Dissidia, if those three ever face each other in battle who do you think could win?

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    Cloud effortlessly destroys both of them.

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    Squall wins, hands down. The Lion Heart beats both the Ultimate Weapon and the Caladbolg. Tidus is agile, but Gunblades always hit in FF8 - and even hit hard because of the gun part of the blade. I would NOT want to get struck by that.

    Comparing the Limit Breaks of the three, we're in a bit of a ditch. The competition is inheritly badly balanced because X has Break Damage Limit and neither Cloud nor Squall do. Because of the different postgame standards, I'm gonna say hitting for 99999 in X counts as hitting for 9999 in VII and VIII. By this, Squall wins effortlessly again, because not only does Lion Heart hit more times than both Omnislash and Blitz Ace, its hits actually deal a MULTIPLE of the base attack damage rather than a fraction like Omnislash and Blitz Ace.
    Besides, FF VIII's Limit Break system allows for effortless spamming unlike either of the other games. Squall essentially gets multiple free hits every turn when compared to the other two - and that without assuming he has an uberpowerful build.

    Overall, I have to say Squall would win, though both of the others would certainly put up a fight.

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    Cecil would pwn them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karifean View Post
    Comparing the Limit Breaks of the three, we're in a bit of a ditch. The competition is inheritly badly balanced because X has Break Damage Limit and neither Cloud nor Squall do. Because of the different postgame standards, I'm gonna say hitting for 99999 in X counts as hitting for 9999 in VII and VIII. By this, Squall wins effortlessly again, because not only does Lion Heart hit more times than both Omnislash and Blitz Ace, its hits actually deal a MULTIPLE of the base attack damage rather than a fraction like Omnislash and Blitz Ace.
    Besides, FF VIII's Limit Break system allows for effortless spamming unlike either of the other games. Squall essentially gets multiple free hits every turn when compared to the other two - and that without assuming he has an uberpowerful build.
    That depends on counting stats and all that or not. Omnislash Version V/VI is supposed to be better than Omnislash, by the way and it does not even exist with stats but just storywise other than Omnislash and has really expressed its power in both versions.

    Storywise it is Cloud with his Hero hax boost since it is a real "LIMIT Break" only used three times and only used against one enemy.

    Stat wise, Squall, of course. End of Heart attacks more often. However, I always have the feeling people don't ask for this since they normally know that more > less.
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    If you count battle systems and cheating and all that: Squall once he card mods his Laguna card.
    But if we cut out all the bullcrap: Cloud.
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    Squall has better advantage than the two of them. His Limit Break Lionheart deals much damage than the other two's limits. If he is junctioned properly he can be almost instantly on the turn and do Lionheart over and over. Omnislash can rival Lionheart, but it can't beat it. Blitz Ace I won't mention because both Omnislash and Lionheart can best it.
    Tidus is quicker than the others, but he is weaker in means of physical strenght and he would go down first. Of course if we look at it as three of them as 9999 HP. As I said before Squall can best Omnislash and in the end he would win over Cloud.

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    It's Cloud.

    All these characters share one particular trait: They can dish out far more than they can take.

    It doesn't matter who has the most powerful attacks, it matters which of those attacks lands first. And Cloud has them beat on that issue.

    The best thing Tidus and Squall can do is get Initiative, which allows the user to select battle commands immediately when a battle starts.

    Cloud, however, has Sneak Attack. This triggers the attached command instantly when the battle begins. FFX's Great Malboros already show us that this is superior to Initiative (as their Bad Breath follows similar rules), and it would also trigger earlier than Squall's attack, because it would trigger while Squall was still selecting which attack to use.

    So by pairing Sneak Attack with Materia like Knights of the Round or Double Cut (and possibly doing so multiple times), Cloud can easily destroy the other characters before they get to make a move.

    Combine that with things like Final Attack + Revive or HP/MP Absorb, and the winner is fairly clear cut.
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    Tidus would lose only because he is the only one who has a sword proportionate to his body.
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    Cloud 50% and Squall 50% so far. No hope for Tidus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeiferxx View Post
    Cloud 50% and Squall 50% so far. No hope for Tidus?
    Maybe if he asks Yunalesca to make him the Final Aeon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeiferxx View Post
    Cloud 50% and Squall 50% so far. No hope for Tidus?
    Maybe if he asks Yunalesca to make him the Final Aeon.
    Or if he gets better Overdrive.

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    Squall would win. Lion Heart does a phenomenal amount of damage.

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    I hate this thread.

    No Zidane

    No Cecil

    No Ashe

    No Terra

    Just HA HA HA HA HA HA, Harry Potter and Chocobo kid.

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