Quote Originally Posted by NeoCracker View Post
Just beat it too!

(SPOILER)I thought the end was great... Kind of.

What got me was the Fireflys had been doing this for a while, and made no progress, yet kept at it. (Mind you, it could have been a lie from Joel, but at the same time it makes more sense that he was telling the truth. I mean they discovered the mutation and plan pretty god damn fast, and decided to operate that soon? They had to have done this before.)

What kind of kills the ending a bit though was that no one took any kind of believable action. Hey, there's a guy trying to resusitate a girl! Let's knock him out.

Hey, there is girl I've practically raised as a sister/daughter! Let's sacrifice her to research that has consistantly failed horribley!

Hey, there's the guy who just gunned down god knows how many of our men! How about I not take this clean shot at his face!


Also, AI in the last area was an an all time bad. I have no Idea what the hell happened, but I Molotov'ed a guy, no one reacted. I strangled a guy in front of like, two other dudes, got spotted, stepped behind cover and they immidiately lost me. In fact I was immidiately lost like, three times.

Really, once you get past the Winter section, AI seems to trout itself. I wasn't even trying to abuse it either, just kind of happened.

I was going to give the game a 9/10, but between later game AI issues, and some issues I brought up in the end game spoilers, it gets an 8.

Still, definately worth the full price, and dear god is Winter awesome. I can see why people would overlook the flaws and rate the game higher then me mind you, cause what this game does well, it does really damn well. And the biggest issue, the AI bugging out, doesn't really seem to happen all that often until the end, at least for me.
(SPOILER)Yeah, a lot of the ending actions were a bit lame, and I stealthed my way through the ending with absolute ease, even jumping into the people at the last barricade who just ran away, letting me get to the door and shut them out. They were far from as brutal as the previous enemies.

I still think the ending was a bit empty though.. It kinda stopped the story short. What's the betting the DLC will add more to it/add in a sequence in between towns that you don't see yet.

Winter was by far the best section. Ellie is a smurfing badass


Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
Has anybody gotten a great use out of the Bow yet? I'm truly curious. I'm finding the idea great, but... the execution that I've encountered using it is, at best, lacking. Headshots either kill them or leave them annoyed as hell and picking up used arrows is greatly hit-or-miss for me.
The Bow is good but very hard to use effectively when everything moves so quickly and it doesn't 1 hit kill very often (on hard at least). The best opportunities to use it are against infected where you can't take them out easily by hand, but don't want to alert the rest (takes some good aiming when taking out Clickers)

The main use of the Bow comes in the Winter section. I'll say no more.