The Last of Us

[Croyles]

Wait, I'm confused.
(SPOILER)People are debating whether Joel was telling the truth? I thought it was pretty obvious that he was lying. Ellie was the only chance for the Fireflies to find a vaccine, and Joel went all nuts because he finally saw Ellie as his daughter. He did the absolute wrong thing for selfish reasons, and then lied to Ellie. I can UNDERSTAND those selfish reasons, and feel sympathy for him, but he definitely did the wrong thing.

The epilogue is where I am a little more uncertain. We got another glimpse of Ellie's wound, and it seemed worse than it had been, suggesting that she wasn't completely immune, but could hold out longer than anyone else, and that was enough for a vaccine to be developed. That is why she asked Joel whether he was telling the truth. She wanted to know that the Firefly's are able to find a vaccine. Knowing this, she was ok with what she thinks happened. At least, that is my take on it.

(SPOILER)No one is debating Joel's intentions, no matter what he was in the wrong, having not know regardless.

The problem is the actions of the Fireflys made no sense if Ellie was the only one. Yet the logs you listen to make no sense if they had done this before.

Also, we here pretty much none of the conversation between Joel and whats her name at the end before he kills her and leaves with Ellie, so that leaves all sorts of questions as to what they were talking about. That easily could have been when brought that up, so it's hard to say one way or the other what the truth actually is.

(SPOILER)What do you mean it makes no sense if she was the only one? They tried everything to try and keep Joel away from her, doesn't that mean she WAS the only one? I also don't understand what you mean about the logs. The logs just explained how Ellie was immune...

The conversation with Marlene... We heard it all. She tried to take Ellie and Joel shot her, then Marlene begged for her life. I didn't see any indication that any part of that conversation was left out...