Man of Steel

[Slothy]

The rationalizations in this thread are pretty painful. Do you people seriously believe that the filmmakers made a conscious choice of "oh, Superman is an inexperienced fighter and wouldn't think about or be able to change the venue of the fight" rather than "LET'S BLOW trout UP OH MAN THIS IS GONNA BE SO AWESOME"? Seriously? The former doesn't even begin to explain why Superman didn't even show any signs he cared through virtually the entire fight, or the complete white-washing of the death and destruction in Metropolis.

I don't think anyone is saying there weren't things that could have been handled a bit better in the film. But could have been handled better is a far cry from weren't handled at all. Also, the fact that you think Superman should have at least tried to change the venue of the fight is laughable. What would that look like if he even tried it? Would it have been him trying to lead Zod away? Because I don't think a man who's stated goal is killing every person on the planet is simply going to be lead away rather than simply destroying the city until Superman can face him. It's not a huge stretch to believe that keeping the psychopath focused on trying to kill you rather than everyone else might be the best plan for saving more lives and buying time for people to get away.

And showed no sign he cared about other people through the fight? Was he supposed to just stop fighting and emote for a second while getting punched through buildings by a literal god? There was maybe a full thirty seconds where he even had any downtime between destroying the terraforming machine and fighting Zod. Not to mention that his decision to become a killer to stop Zod from killing more people (something which goes against pretty much everything he believes in and stands for) kind of blows the idea that he never showed signs of caring through the entire fight out of the water. And we don't even need to get into the fact that he basically committed genocide against his own race to save humanity.

Miriel's tone may have been a bit much, but many of the so-called counterarguments here are just a rather bewildering series of "let's blatantly fabricate an ad hoc explanation so that the movie did no wrong." We're not criticizing your mother; it's a movie.

Why do you assume we're taking these arguments personally? Miriel's borderline insults we might take personally sure, but the argument? Not really. If anything, I'd say that I at least am being one of the calmer people here since I'm not the one dismissing arguments as dumb or accusing others of being butthurt because they don't agree with me. I'm just slightly surprised that you of all people are ignoring established facts in the movie to try and argue why some aspects are bad. If you want to say you didn't like how they handled some things that's fine. But demonstrating your factually incorrect in many of your assumptions isn't fabricating ad hoc explanations because "oh no, we can't handle the movie ever being wrong." It's paying attention to what was actually happening on screen and not glossing over or ignoring details to make a point the way you and Miriel have.

I think, considering the times we are in, it would be cool if they did Brainiac in the next movie. A rogue AI is an interesting match for Superman. And he could be played by Benedict Cumberpatch.

I'd be in favour of a Lex/Brainiac team up myself.