Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
The whole team isn't playing badly. But the defence didn't hold a line, and again, if you think they need a manager to tell them that, then what the smurf, man.
Well, yeah, I do actually. The manager is the one who sets the defensive system and drills it into them in training every week. If you noticed it, why didn't Moyes notice it at half-time and tell them to pull their fingers out?

Following up SAF, you expect a "downgrade" no matter what.
Yeah, you do, but not that much of a downgrade. The likes of AVB, Mancini and Benitez would be a downgrade on Fergie but they'd still be an upgrade on Moyes. I'm not saying any of those should've been made United manager for obvious reasons but you get the point I'm making. Evidently Roberto Martinez is an upgrade on Moyes ffs!
I do think Moyes is a good manager
Why? Not being flippant. If you look at his first few years, up to the point where he got CL qualification, I'd agree. After that they've not made any progress, served up turgid football and flopped in the cups year after year. They stagnated, and Moyes hadn't got any fresh ideas. Along with Stoke and whoever Sam Allardyce was managing, Everton were the worst team in the league to watch. That kind of football can help you punch above your weight but it simply is not the style of play for a team challenging at the top. As I've said before, I really enjoy watching Everton now even though I'm not supposed to.