It really, really is.Originally Posted by Pike
Sonic 2 is better.
It really, really is.Sonic 2 is better.
Well, at least I chose the right Sonic game.I played the others but they never really captured me like Sonic 2.
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I can't think of a single category other than EoFF Hype in which 2 beats Sonic 3 Complete.
At least give us Sonic 2 Starring Knuckles for crying out loud!
That one is my favorite. I love how much Knuckles and his wall climb change that game.
I can't think of a single category other than EoFF Hype in which 2 beats Sonic 3 Complete.
At least give us Sonic 2 Starring Knuckles for crying out loud!
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Sonic 2 is always the one I go back to. I am very rarely in the mood to play Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
Sonic 3 is objectively the best sonic game.
Best stages, best bosses... and Knuckles.
Yeah, seriously, 3 is probably the best platformer ever made, 2 doesn't even come close.
You can tell towns knows this because he's been ranting about how "subjective" his list is almost non-stop right before dropping this bombshell about how wrong he is.
I saw an article or blog post about the level design in Sonic 3 a few years ago which went into quite a bit of detail for why it's not nearly as good as Sonic 2, but I can never quite seem to find it. Suffice it to say, in games which are first and foremost about running really fast, there was no shortage of game mechanics which directly conflicted with that. Not stuff that just stopped you for a second if you screwed up, but things you absolutely had to stop for. Far more than there were in Sonic 2 where you could typically keep moving in one direction or another just about all of the time. It was also just a confused mess of superfluous game mechanics in general though.
The levels being better designed is true only if you're approaching them from a "go really fast" angle. 3 has a far greater focus on exploration, such as more alternate routes to the end of each level, and Tails and Knuckles not just being "sonic as a different animal" and having abilities that make them far more mobile, etc. Most levels have areas where you can go as fast as you can, but bring a lot more to the table than just that.
I guess the main difference is the (literal) linearity of levels? eg. I can't think of a single time you ever need to use the left directional button in 2 (except for the Wing Fortress) in 2, but conversely, I can't recall any level in 3 where you wouldn't need it to get through.
As for the art design of levels, 2 doesn't compare at all! 3 is full of subtleties, such as these, for example.
Last edited by WildRaubtier; 07-21-2013 at 03:24 AM. Reason: double negatives, oi
My gosh yes. Soooo many annoyances that conflicted with things. Like those stupid climbing pully things in the first level. Or the tons of switch puzzles.
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I don't know, man, when I went back to 2, I kinda felt like it wasn't just a straightforward 'all speed, no challenge," game it's kinda been pidgeon-holed as. It had its fair share of moments where you had to stop and pull switches as well, like the vines in the jungle mine stage and who can forget the swimming?
2 is absolutely ridiculous on the nostalgia level, but 3 & Knuckles is the better game.
I'm not saying Sonic 3 is a bad game because it's very good. But to me it always felt like more of a traditional-style platformer whereas Sonic 2 was much more about GOING FAST.
If I want a traditional-style platformer I'll play Mario, not Sonic.
I simply have more fun when I play Sonic 2. It's straight-forward, no-nonsense, and had the best music in the series.
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84. Final Fantasy IX
PlayStation, 2000
This is one of the few FF's that I played to finish after reading hype about it and still enjoyed it, which isn't a common thing. I really liked it - the vast amount of minigames (even if I did get annoyed at Hot & Cold for a while), the wonderful worlds, the solid characters and the various little moments in the game made this thing. I was still never captured in the way I often am with FF's where I feel drawn to keep playing non-stop for as long as I can, so it's the lowest FF that actually made the list based on that reason alone. A good RPG. I don't know if I'd play it again any time soon, but maybe years down the line when I'm bored I might have another go at it. Oh, and I generally don't get all that caught up in romance in FF's, let alone games at all, and the ending was entirely predictable, but the way they did the running scene right at the end was excellent and I got the feels from it, which is a rare thing indeed these days.
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