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    Alright, listening to Thumb Wars (Show on Blistered Thumbs) It seems one of Sega's reasons for buying up Index was that Atlus knew how to sell Japanese games to an american Audience. So yeah, Atlus USA was a part of the reason they bought Index, meaning I think Atlus USA is coming out of this fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Most ATLUS games are only released for a single platform anyway. Sure, they hit a variety of them. But if you're a Persona fan, you need the Sony systems. No way around that. If you like the Devil Survivor games, you need a DS. Etcetera. ATLUS doesn't do multi-platform releases of a single title.
    Never claimed otherwise.

    Personally, I'm pretty dang unhappy with this. SEGA does not have a good history with me. They were once a beacon of the industry. They then drove their own consoles into the ground, forcing themselves to switch to software only.
    Not totally accurate. At worst their guilty of making a couple of unpopular add-ons for the Genesis and botching the Saturn's launch while misjudging the direction the market was headed with its hardware. So, one bad console release? Hardly as bad as you make it sound.

    Their history with Sonic Team shows just how badly they can ruin a good series, and how far they'll go milking it.
    They didn't really ruin Sonic considering Sonic just doesn't work in 3D. I can't blame them for continuing to try though considering its their best known series and one of the few they have that's not clearly a niche series.

    And their recent history away from Japan has been horrible, in my mind. They butchered their own US distribution centers and localization teams, and they've refused to localize most of their niche titles, like Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles.
    Sure, let's just ignore the number of very well received western titles they've published in recent years. As for Yakuza, unless I'm mistaken we've gotten a fair number of those. And as much as I love Valkyria Chronicles it's a bit silly to complain about them not localizing the later ones considering none of them sold well here. Why should they localize them if they haven't been able to make any money off of them so far?

    I'm afraid that ATLUS America is not going to survive this acquisition, and that we'll never see another Persona game released stateside.
    Sure, we'll never see one of the most popular JRPG series released stateside because apparently Sega is terminally stupid and bought Atlus just to have them not do the thing they're best at and popular and successful for?

    You crack me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCracker View Post
    Alright, listening to Thumb Wars (Show on Blistered Thumbs) It seems one of Sega's reasons for buying up Index was that Atlus knew how to sell Japanese games to an american Audience. So yeah, Atlus USA was a part of the reason they bought Index, meaning I think Atlus USA is coming out of this fine.
    This is amazing news!

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    To further elaborate, Sega and Atlus have had a pretty damn solid history, with Sega Japan originally releasing many of their games over there.

    Further more, Yakuza 5 is the first one we haven't gotten, and ever since the first one their sales have been declining title by title. The first Valkyria did well, but 2 did very poorly here. It's not so much SEGA has a history of not releasing Niche titles, it's that those niche titles rarely do well over here.

    Hell, look at them taking a chance on Hatsume Miko (YEs, I probably butchered that name. ). Sega actually has a pretty bitching history of taking chances on Niche titles, it just also comes with them not selling well enough to warrant sequel releases.

    Just doing what I can to ease the dread, no need to let all the negativity pre-emptively wreck what could be a good thing. ;P

    Also, one last mention, ATLUS has had a hell of a time even getting their games released over in Europe, and given Sega has a big reach there it seems the European audience will get more access to Atlus titles.

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    The second Valkyria did poorly because they released in on a smurfing handheld. Not only does that limit your initial fanbase, the PSP is also widely less popular than the smurfing PS3. It was a terrible idea even if it is a pretty solid game.

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    The PSP was the hottest system at the time in Japan, though and they had a pretty solid first week there, enough to warrant a sequel. I think they just didn't get the hint that in the West it was little more than a glorified homebrew platform.

    It was a good game, I'm not going to complain because Sega didn't make enough money off of it. Though I really do want to play VC3.

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    I just remembered I never beat Eggs of Steel all the way through. I should dig it out and finish it. That game was awesome.

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    Sega was really the best choice, all things considered. This might even be a good thing for Sega. I could see Atlus helping them with the Yakuza games overseas, for example. Or maybe even translating/porting older games, like Sega's Saturn library. Things like that. And they'll still keep making their own games.

    Whoever said Sega ran their own consoles into the ground was way off the mark. The only systems they really did that with were the 32X and the Saturn. The Saturn was only botched because Sega released it here during E3, on the same day they presented it, without letting retailers know, so they broke a lot of trust with that.

    The Dreamcast became unpopular after only 9 months through no fault of Sega's own. It really had to do with the PS2 coming up. Everybody was so hyped about it. Even if Sega had waited to release the DC, or had released it here the year before like in Japan, the same thing would have happened. It was just terrible luck.
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    I've seen Sega of America has been hit with layoffs, not sure if this bodes well for our localization aspirations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    I've seen Sega of America has been hit with layoffs, not sure if this bodes well for our localization aspirations...
    Hmm, funny, I could have sworn that somebody warned about exactly this sort of thing when SEGA was first announced to have bought ATLUS. Who was it again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    I've seen Sega of America has been hit with layoffs, not sure if this bodes well for our localization aspirations...
    Hmm, funny, I could have sworn that somebody warned about exactly this sort of thing when SEGA was first announced to have bought ATLUS. Who was it again?
    Could it be the same guy spouting nonsense based off half informed claims?

    Layoffs hit Sega of America | Polygon

    So yeah, only a small number of employees were affected, and all things considered that was to be expected. Remember, Atlus USA was part of their reason to buy up Atlus at all because their current American branch wasn't cutting it. If this was a large scale lay off you may have something, but as it stands the negativity is still pretty unfounded. To say anything even remotely definitively is rather silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCracker View Post
    To say anything even remotely definitively is rather silly.
    Well, the entire point of that post was to be silly (which is why I worded it the way I did), so mission accomplished!

    When is the next ATLUS USA-localized game coming out? Their website isn't working right for me for some reason (not displaying video or images).

    EDIT: Nevermind, got it. Aqua Pazza, November 19th. Well, that will give me a day to feel a bit more comfortable with the situation.
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