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    I don't care how old school or new school you are, that 'And' he used is 100% redundant and it's at the start of a PARAGRAPH which makes it even worse. Terrible. Horrible! I don't think I can associate with him anymore.

    On topic: I don't use the serial comma. I can see why some people might, but for me it just looks butt ugly. I like Yeru's bit about how there are arguments for both sides that are fairly valid. Personally speaking, I just do what I can to make a sentence make sense. If I find myself forced into a situation where it's just not gonna work without a serial comma, I leave it out purely because that's how I was brought up and it feels wrong to have a comma there. In the end, I want my post to look right to me first and foremost. I imagine most people are this way.
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    I don't care how old school or new school you are, that 'And' he used is 100% redundant and it's at the start of a PARAGRAPH which makes it even worse. Terrible. Horrible! I don't think I can associate with him anymore.
    What's more miraculous is that anyone here is even willing to associate with you after that abomination of a soup thread.

    Also there's no grammatical rule against redundancy. The sentence "I'd like to say 'thank you' on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we've passed the audition" is entirely grammatically correct, despite being quite redundant.

    As for the topic, yes, I usually use the Oxford comma, unless it creates ambiguity to do so (and I'm not too out of it to notice said ambiguity).
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    I didn't say it was grammatically incorrect, I said it was terrible and horrible. And I'm right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yar View Post
    I don't use it. It only redundancy to an already redundant English language, and actually creates ambiguity in some instances.

    Just don't be so dense as to actually believe that JFK and Stalin are strippers.
    Well maybe in an obvious case with Stalin and JFK you could argue to omit the Oxford comma... but really, unless you are listing like items (I ate apples, bananas and pears) then the Oxford comma helps to reduce ambiguity by demonstrating a continuation in a list as opposed to a reference back to an improper noun. That being said I have only seen the Oxford comma demonstrate use in this case of improper nouns followed by a list of proper nouns and is really only most efficient when that list of proper nouns is limited by two.

    I played with my gerbils, Tammy, and Sarah.
    I played with my gerbils, Tammy and Sarah.

    I played with my gerbils, Tammy, Sarah and Ryan.
    I played with my gerbils, Tammy, Sarah, and Ryan.
    (I don't really see how the comma helps in this instance without the use of extreme semantics).

    If you really wanted to clarify, why not just pop in a colon?
    I played with my gerbils: Tammy and Sarah.


    Anyway, yes I still use it as noted... but really it is just an old habit from grade school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemical View Post
    Well maybe in an obvious case with Stalin and JFK you could argue to omit the Oxford comma...
    Again, this is a really bad idea. You should NEVER use the serial comma in some cases but not in others, because then in a case of ambiguity the reader has no idea what you intended. If you write "I played with my gerbils, Tammy and Sarah", and your use of the serial comma is inconsistent, people will have no idea what you mean - but if you consistently use the serial comma everywhere, even when talking about JFK and Stalin, then its absence here makes your meaning clear. Similar cases of ambiguity can arise if you fail to consistently leave it out.

    Either use it or don't use it. My personal preference is to use it. But if you don't want to use it everywhere, stick to that decision.
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    I didn't say it was grammatically incorrect, I said it was terrible and horrible. And I'm right.
    You implied it was grammatically incorrect by sticking a complaint about it immediately after talking about WesLY's complaints about grammar. If you're not trying to argue WesLY was a hypocrite for using the article at the start of the sentence, then your post makes very little sense.

    And, as Yeru has pointed out, almost no one gives a trout about articles at the starts of sentences anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    And, as Yeru has pointed out, almost no one gives a trout about articles at the starts of sentences anymore.
    :O_O: We agree on something?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I didn't say it was grammatically incorrect, I said it was terrible and horrible. And I'm right.
    You implied it was grammatically incorrect by sticking a complaint about it immediately after talking about WesLY's complaints about grammar. If you're not trying to argue WesLY was a hypocrite for using the article at the start of the sentence, then your post makes very little sense.

    And, as Yeru has pointed out, almost no one gives a trout about articles at the starts of sentences anymore.
    makes assumptions about implications

    posts in a blue font all the time

    gtfo out of here Aaron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    gtfo out of here Aaron
    "get the smurf out out of here"

    I rest my case.

    @Yeru: Probably more than that, but I'm too lazy to figure out right now
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    Dude, if you can't tell when I'm being facetious I don't know what to say to you. I even said used the sentence "And I'm right." in one of my posts. I don't know what I'm supposed to do with you anymore.
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    Oh, no, it was obvious you were being facetious from the fact that you claimed you had no desire to associate with WesLY anymore (as opposed to the soup thread, which legitimately would make someone want to have nothing to do with you ), but I found it more entertaining to pick apart your post because of boredom

    Maybe I just need to use every time I'm being facetious or flippant myself in the future, since people seem to have come to expect it
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    I can give you more things to complain about if you like! I'm sure I can come up with something.
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    Nah, I'm good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I didn't say it was grammatically incorrect, I said it was terrible and horrible. And I'm right.
    You implied it was grammatically incorrect by sticking a complaint about it immediately after talking about WesLY's complaints about grammar. If you're not trying to argue WesLY was a hypocrite for using the article at the start of the sentence, then your post makes very little sense.

    And, as Yeru has pointed out, almost no one gives a trout about articles at the starts of sentences anymore.
    makes assumptions about implications

    posts in a blue font all the time

    gtfo out of here Aaron
    He fails to use complete sentences or punctuation and types everything in lowercase. GTFO of here, BoB.
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