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    I'm late to the party, but yes I try to use it where applicable. I think it makes the sentence structure more clear, and feels natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkythesharkdogg View Post
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    I'd say context carries much more weight on how people interpret your sentence than whether or not you used a serial comma back when you were listing things two pages ago. In fact, I'll wager less than 1% of readers in most settings will even notice inconsistent use, and even those few that do should be able to use context and sense to figure out the meaning, and even come to expect inconsistency!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantz View Post
    I'd say context carries much more weight on how people interpret your sentence than whether or not you used a serial comma back when you were listing things two pages ago. In fact, I'll wager less than 1% of readers in most settings will even notice inconsistent use, and even those few that do should be able to use context and sense to figure out the meaning, and even come to expect inconsistency!
    While that may be the case most of the time, it's not always possible to figure out the meaning merely based on context and sense. For those cases, you want to be able to at least give some unambiguous indication of which interpretation is intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    If you couldn't tell from the OP, I always use an Oxford comma. And, like Shlup, I always notice when other people don't use it and it bugs me. Even regions that don't use the Oxford comma, like the UK, require its use where the lack of the comma can cause ambiguity (such as in the OP's examples), so I don't understand why it's not just always used. Silly Brits.

    And I was an editor on a law journal for two years, which like all good American publications required the Oxford comma, so I became used to correcting people's omission of it.
    complains about grammar

    starts a sentence - no, a PARAGRAPH - with a 100% entirely massively redundant 'And'

    gtfo of here Raistlin
    1. You're way late to the party; foa already highlighted one actual error, albeit a typo.

    2. Use of "And" or "But" to start a sentence is not a grammar error. It can be unprofessional, so I wouldn't do it all the time in a formal paper, but it's not "wrong." And in casual e-conversation, I type how I talk, which includes more informal speech and colloquialisms (neither of which are "wrong" in that context).

    3. Your face is dumb.

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    I'm British and my job primarily consists of me writing an average of 200 emails a week on a professional level. If I didn't use the Oxford Comma, it'd likely cause me to lose my job.

    Editing time:

    Yes I realise that the Oxford Comma is not essential in the UK. However, as Raistlin points out correctly, it can be a great thing for clarification in an email when sending it to a customer.

    Unfortunately, this is where my agreement with that colonial half wit Raistlin ends. As he started a paragraph with an unforgivable sentence fragment. Much like the word 'but', you do not start a sentence let alone a paragraph with the word 'and'. If you must use a word to signify such a thing, then you should use terms such as; 'furthermore', 'in addition', 'also', 'yet', 'however' or even 'alas' is acceptable. Ergo: Raistlin is a failure and should learn to write in the English language correctly before he starts preaching.
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    You know what bugs me? Ending a sentence with at when there doesn't need to be an at. Some sentences I can see why it's there but some are just unnecessary.

    Like, where are my keys at? Why can't you just say, where are my keys? It comes out to the same thing.

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    One time somebody pointed out to me that a lot of people say "try and help" rather than "try to help" and now I can't unhear it and it bothers me a lot.

    But then there's other stuff that used to bother me that I end up assimilating into. It's a pretty Montanan thing to throw "anymore" onto the end of sentences - "it's pretty hot anymore" - and at first I was at it but now I say it sometimes too and I'm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yerushalmi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pantz View Post
    I'd say context carries much more weight on how people interpret your sentence than whether or not you used a serial comma back when you were listing things two pages ago. In fact, I'll wager less than 1% of readers in most settings will even notice inconsistent use, and even those few that do should be able to use context and sense to figure out the meaning, and even come to expect inconsistency!
    While that may be the case most of the time, it's not always possible to figure out the meaning merely based on context and sense. For those cases, you want to be able to at least give some unambiguous indication of which interpretation is intended.
    I took my father, a potato and Michael to see the strippers, JFK, and Stalin.

    I took my father, a potato, and Michael to see the strippers, JFK, and Stalin.

    I took my father, a potato and Michael to see the strippers, JFK and Stalin.

    I don't understand how the inconsistency of the first example allows for more ambiguity than either of the two with consistent use. Show me an example to the contrary (where the use or non-use of the serial comma is optimally chosen, of course)!

    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    You know what bugs me? Ending a sentence with at when there doesn't need to be an at. Some sentences I can see why it's there but some are just unnecessary.
    Where all the white ladies at?
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    I always use serial commas. Sometimes my friend (who worked at the college newspaper) looks over my writing and she takes out those commas, though. It bothers me, so I end up ignoring that bit of edit. Idk if that's an AP style thing or not.

    Starting on my left with one, your number comes up, you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike View Post
    It's a pretty Montanan thing to throw "anymore" onto the end of sentences - "it's pretty hot anymore"
    I don't... What?

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    Did... did Iceglow just criticize my forum posting style?



    (Also yes, it is, in fact, perfectly acceptable to begin a sentence with a conjunction. Just FYI)

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    This thread is amazing.

    I begin sentences with "and" and "but" all the time. No smurfs are given.

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