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    Quote Originally Posted by Cim View Post
    Because their degree in Philosophy is worthless.
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    Because their degree in Philosophy is worthless.
    Exactly.

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    BUNCH OF MEANIES! I bet if you were to do the Veil of Ignorance thought experiment proposed by Rawls, you would not slight philosophy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cim View Post
    Because their degree in Philosophy is worthless.
    You slighted it, nerd. Not anyone else.

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    People, people, please.

    Use of the Oxford comma is context-dependent. Philosophy degrees are worth enlightenment or something.

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    People, people, please.

    Use of the Oxford comma is context-dependent. Philosophy degrees are worth enlightenment or something.
    It's really, really not. Every single method of avoiding comma-based ambiguity is dependent on a consistent system being employed throughout the work. If I write "his parents, Mike and Elaine", it's only clear that these are two people if the serial comma appears everywhere else. Otherwise it could just be four people and a lack of a comma. Clarity is defined by consistency.
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    Strunk & White's Elements of Style insists on the use of serial comma. One does not argue with Strunk & White.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch! View Post
    Strunk & White's Elements of Style insists on the use of serial comma. One does not argue with Strunk & White.
    One who does not argue with Strunk & White is one who does not read Language Log enough. See my post earlier in this thread, which was mostly in reference to the passive voice.
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    Just don't be so dense as to actually believe that JFK and Stalin are strippers.
    How do you know? They might be. Maybe they're just trying to put themselves through med school.
    Because their degree in Philosophy is worthless.
    Exactly.
    Hey, I am doing a degree in Philosophy!
    You're the one who slighted it, not me!
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    Because their degree in Philosophy is worthless.
    You slighted it, nerd. Not anyone else.

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    Am I the same person? Just checking, I don't know whether or not you're me. I've had that problem before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigmafuzz View Post
    Am I the same person? Just checking, I don't know whether or not you're me. I've had that problem before
    I dunno, we might be! There are no mirrors in my apartment.


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    People who want to moan about how I use my commas go tell it to my ass cheeks, Shlup and Raistlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    If you couldn't tell from the OP, I always use an Oxford comma. And, like Shlup, I always notice when other people don't use it and it bugs me. Even regions that don't use the Oxford comma, like the UK, require its use where the lack of the comma can cause ambiguity (such as in the OP's examples), so I don't understand why it's not just always used. Silly Brits.

    And I was an editor on a law journal for two years, which like all good American publications required the Oxford comma, so I became used to correcting people's omission of it.
    complains about grammar

    starts a sentence - no, a PARAGRAPH - with a 100% entirely massively redundant 'And'

    gtfo of here Raistlin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    complains about grammar

    starts a sentence - no, a PARAGRAPH - with a 100% entirely massively redundant 'And'

    gtfo of here Raistlin
    As an editor, I can tell you that that rule is really no longer considered compulsory. It's a zombie rule of grammar much like not splitting infinitives - it has its sticklers but most people have moved on.
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    I don't care how old school or new school you are, that 'And' he used is 100% redundant and it's at the start of a PARAGRAPH which makes it even worse. Terrible. Horrible! I don't think I can associate with him anymore.

    On topic: I don't use the serial comma. I can see why some people might, but for me it just looks butt ugly. I like Yeru's bit about how there are arguments for both sides that are fairly valid. Personally speaking, I just do what I can to make a sentence make sense. If I find myself forced into a situation where it's just not gonna work without a serial comma, I leave it out purely because that's how I was brought up and it feels wrong to have a comma there. In the end, I want my post to look right to me first and foremost. I imagine most people are this way.
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    I don't care how old school or new school you are, that 'And' he used is 100% redundant and it's at the start of a PARAGRAPH which makes it even worse. Terrible. Horrible! I don't think I can associate with him anymore.
    What's more miraculous is that anyone here is even willing to associate with you after that abomination of a soup thread.

    Also there's no grammatical rule against redundancy. The sentence "I'd like to say 'thank you' on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we've passed the audition" is entirely grammatically correct, despite being quite redundant.

    As for the topic, yes, I usually use the Oxford comma, unless it creates ambiguity to do so (and I'm not too out of it to notice said ambiguity).
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