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    Quote Originally Posted by Karifean View Post
    Little Busters is Key's second-best work.

    The FinaleI thought it was good. It seemed a bit of a daring move to have them survive after the ENTIRE show has been about making the Ri's strong enough to cope with the loss, but in the end, it worked out fine. You can just as easily say that their gained strength ended up giving them the resolve they needed to be able to also save their lives. Although they might've changed something from the Visual Novel so hell if I know.
    ... what? If you mean second to Planetarian. Of adapted media, the Little Busters source material is not second to anything.

    (SPOILER)This is probably more a result of not having read the novel, so I'll explain, but you missed the point. The overall result is the same, everyone lives; however, the extra stuff in between is gone.

    It was mismanaged in that JC Staff decided to gloss over the scene by playing stock music over it and having it take the all of twelve minutes. We've already heard the opening 20some times by now, yes, we get that when this music plays, it's supposed to be dramatic. When you're watching the show, they just walk on through the bus and start rescuing people like there's no issue.

    In the original novel, there's two endings. The first time you reach the bus, you either die, or you run away. You don't have the option of rescuing anyone, because if you do, you pass out in the bus, and you die. This leads to a scene in the hospital, in which Riki and Rin both have to resolve to change the situation.

    You have to come back to the bus later, after another scene in which Riki has to decide to be born and meet Rin. This is the actual result of the wish, to be reborn in a second timeline without any of the issues that would keep Riki and Rin from saving everyone. In the show, it's implied that the wish is simply to save everyone, which is the lazy way out.

    When you get there the second time, there's a set of six choices or so that you have to get correct. Even after being reborn, Riki still has to make correct calls when he's going through and saving everyone. Just because he was reborn as a badass doesn't mean that he can't get everyone killed. A leader Riki may be, but a leader can still lead his people to horrible tragedy. JC Staff leaves all of this out, and makes it look easy, draining the situation of its potential full impact.

    The original ending is only three hours long because of the text. From novel to show, you're missing out on quite a bit. You're missing out on Riki really stepping up to his new mantle of leadership, something that is gained through multiple lifetimes. You're missing out on the music that plays during the bus scene, the music of impending and immediate doom. You're missing out on how much smarter Riki and Rin got, in that they could stomp their emotions out, and rescue everyone in a timely order and without getting everyone killed. From what I remember, all they left in was that Kyousuke was stopping the gas leak. They never included how he was stopping it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Karifean View Post
    Little Busters is Key's second-best work.
    ... what? If you mean second to Planetarian. Of adapted media, the Little Busters source material is not second to anything.
    You're talking to someone who's currently suffering from a severe case of Clannad Void.

    The rest of your post pretty much assured that I'll be checking out the LB VN sooner than I originally planned. Sounds like I still have a lot to look forward to.

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    ef melodies and memories are also excellent shows.

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    Well, considering it's geen a few years since I've seen a new anime, I checked that link from Jeswee and... Two of them greatly intrigue me.

    Nobunaga the Foolish, and for the silliness of the name, Nobunagun. XD

    Also interested in Z/X Ignition and Noragami.

    And as for more recent ones that are praised, what is everyones thoughts on Attack on Titan? Does it live up to the insane hype some people give it?

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    Shingeki no Kyojin was one of the better Shonen series I've seen. It's very enjoyable all the way through. It just suffers from A. it's not finished, and B. for me there are worlds between Shonen series and REALLY good shows.

    In short, definitely worth a watch.

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    I had to google that just to make sure you were talking to me. XD

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    Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is amazing. I didn't know what to expect from it, but it was completely brilliant.
    Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is, I believe, the longest running manga to still be in production, nearing its thousandth issue and recently having celebrated its... 25th anniversary? The ending theme of the show, Roundabout by Yes, is full on eight and a half minutes of badassery. Also, because people might not get how badass the show is:



    Fun fact: every time you hear "Yare Yare Daze" or "ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA!" in an anime, it's referencing this upcoming series.
    It is definitely long running, but not as 1 continuous series, there are currently 8 separate series, the longest continuous series would be Hajime no Ippo.
    How long has that series been going on for? I mean Jojo's broken up into the 8 separate series but series 1 through 6 all were interconnected and shared characters for the entirety of its run. Similarly, even though its broken up into 8 series, series, they all share the same name, if that counts for something.

    I've read every series except for Steel Ball Run, which I have been mentally preparing to take on now that I'm caught up on Jojolion.

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    Hajime no Ippo started publishing in 1989 and has been ever since, so even though the first Jojo started in 1987, there were a few years with nothing coming out Ippo is still the longest continuous series.

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    I'm still slowly but surely creeping through Ef Melodies. Memories was pretty good but I'm a little burnt out right now and it's taking me a very long time to get through Melodies.

    Similarly to Clannad, my appreciation for Little Busters! has grown exponentially since I finished the visual novel last week. It's now in my Top 3 along with Clannad itself and Steins;Gate. And I've yet to read the Steins;Gate visual novel.

    Let me quickly go into the matter of the Little Busters anime adaptation. IMO it's not a bad adaptation, they did what they could, but they unavoidably had to take out the interactive aspect as well as the repeating storyline and that is a big part of LB's charm. The end of Refrain is so good in the visual novel because of the choices it gives you. A lot of that is just lost in the anime and there's nothing you can do about that.
    So in the end, it's a good anime, no question, but LB just isn't that adaptable and quite a bunch was lost. I'd recommend reading the visual novel over watching the anime.

    Edit: Following my making of this post I've been watching Melodies since and I had a little episode of going insane at Episode 6+. I may still be a little out of it, so I'll just come back tomorrow with hopefully a more clear mind.
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    Been slowly working my way through Great Teacher Onizuka. Gotta say, it is quite a fun little watch. Enjoyable characters, enjoyable writing and some pretty touching moments. It's far and away not the best anime I've seen but I'm liking my time with it.
    Eyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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    I recently finished re-watching Geass. I also am trying to watch Fairy Tail online, although it's difficult because I'm not used to watching things in Japanese with subtitles. I feel I miss a lot when I have to focus on the top or bottom portion of the screen to know WTF the characters are saying. Translation: I hate subbed anime. I also hate people who insist subbed is better than dubbed. I don't care how bad the dub sounds, subbed is not better.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    I had a Higurashi no Naku Koro ni marathon a few days ago and reminded myself just why this series is so damn good.

    Still trying to find the time to rewatch Death Note while my brother insists that I finally watch Game of Thrones. Although at the moment most of my time is taken up by reading the Higurashi visual novel and playing Lightning Returns. Oh well, eventually, eventually.

    On the Dub vs Sub debate I find myself on the Sub end. For one, English is not my native language so hearing it isn't that big an improvement over reading it. Secondly, I find myself having no problem reading the subtitles while also paying attention to what happens on set. It's just something I got used to. Third, once I hear a character's voice in Japanese, I usually cannot stand hearing them with another voice. This goes both ways and there are exceptions, but that's mostly how it is. A lot seems to get lost in a dub, since there is so much more to spoken language than just its literal meaning.

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    Still, clifnotes are not a good way to go about this, which is why they're an exclusively fansub thing. A good translation, be it sub or dub, doesn't require it, as the context is either made clear through the dialog or a culturally relevant equivalent is imported. Trust me, I'm doing my MA on translation

    I think dub and sub can both be good. It's not that all dubs are objectively worse, a different voice on a character you like will always sound jarring.

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    If the English Dub is good, I will always take it over subtitles. I don't watch shows to read.

    Very few shows can I not stand the english VA's though, so I do have a pretty high tolerance fur sub-par voice acting.

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    Have I already mentioned how Nisemonogatari ruined anime for me? I believe I have. But it totally did.

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