Pokémon X&Y post-launch discussion thread - AKA Jinx is Upset

[Skyblade]

And, while doing my own searches, I noticed that Wal-Mart is apparently offering an exclusive unlock code with the purchase of either game. Pokémon X gets you Garchomp, Pokémon Y gets you Scizor. They are codes which unlock the Pokémon in-game, and can be redeemed over WiFi. So Pokémon has finally jumped on the vendor-exclusivity bandwagon. Pity.

[Shaibana]

i am etremely dissapointed with the Safari :l
i actually looked forward to it, only to find out that its just a freaking square with grass

and i got through the whole story/gymes/pokeleague with 2 fingers in my nose.. really.. becaus of that Exp.share it ruined the challenge since with other pokemon i catch only the 6 pokemon that i want.

unlike here i switched pokemon several times and still i went to the league with ± lvl 77 pokemon :l without extra training

[Pike]

I want Moon Stones. Lots and lots of Moon Stones. I want to evolve all my Pokies that need them. But I do not feel like farming that one Super Secret Special Training or whatever it's called.

Guess I just have to keep at it, though...

[Skyblade]

I want Moon Stones. Lots and lots of Moon Stones. I want to evolve all my Pokies that need them. But I do not feel like farming that one Super Secret Special Training or whatever it's called.

Guess I just have to keep at it, though...

I have a few I'd be willing to trade you. I don't mind the Special Secret Super Training.

I also have several 4 IV Adamant Technician Scythers sitting in my PC, and a few Metal Coats (been farming Metangs from the Friend Safari for them). If anyone wants a Scizor... Granted, if you want a 5 IV, you'd have to breed them a bit more, but HP, Atk, Spe, and either Defensive stat is still pretty good if you just want one quick. Egg Moves known: Baton Pass, Silver Wind, and Bug Buzz (Scizor usually doesn't actually use any Egg Moves, especially not Special Attack based ones, but I wanted Baton Pass as an option, and Ledyba/Ledian learns all three).

I also still have some high IV Larvitar, Gastly, Ralts, Farfetch'd, and Absol running around, and I'm getting to the point where I'm going to want to start clearing my PC boxes. So, if you want one, let me know, and we'll find a time to trade them over.

I'm still looking for Pokémon Y exclusives (especially Skrelp), but I am working Y up some, so I'll get those before too long. I'll also take a Timid, Adamant, or Jolly Synchronizer, a fully evolved Pokémon with Compound Eyes (I've been using Nincada for my item farming, but it loses Compound Eyes for Speed Boost when it evolves), or a female Snorlax in a Luxury Ball (not likely, I know).

Or anything you can spare. I'm getting rid of these guys anyway, so you don't exactly need to offer me a ton.

[Pike]

I don't mind the secret training, but the chances of getting a Moon Stone out of that one aren't as high as I'd like so it's all a big grind. Oh well. I'll nab 'em eventually.

[WildRaubtier]

You can also get moonstones with the Pickup ability at a medium to high level. The higher your level, the better your chance. Try breeding your starter and asking for a zigzagoon on the GTS for the 1.7x exp multiplier (+ 1.5x from a lucky egg, +1.2 from high affection in Amie, +?x from not evolving it as soon as you can.... et al).

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I'm currently being incredibly ambitious and am going to try filling the entirety of my pokedex with each language's entries. I'm not trying too hard at the moment, not until Pokebank comes out and I buy a copy of X, but I'm still putting various mons aside and would appreciate if anyone gets any goodies off the WT for me!

My rules for what pokemon I want are pretty simple:
-Unevolved mons (Oddish, Quilfish, etc.);
-Mons that evolve via trading (Machamp, Scizor, Escavalier, etc.)
-Mons that evolve via stone, other than Leaf, Water and Fire (Raichu, Delcatty, etc.)

A list of what I have so far:
FREZigzagoon, Shelmet, Corphish, Conkeldurr, Geodude, Flabebe, Farfetch'd, Cloyster, Magikarp, Skrelp, Fletchling, Solrock
GERFoongus, Squirtle, Weedle, Poochyena, Quilfish, Dedenne, Aron, Gible
ITAEevee, Ralts, Litleo, Duskull, Riolu
JPNEevee (5/9), magnemite, ditto, oddish, shellder, staryu, sandshrew, bulbasaur, gastly, caterpie, cubine, magikarp, machop, lickitung, scyther, kabuto, venonat, slowpoke, alakazam, golem, abra, charmander, farfetch'd, houndour, mareep, smeargle, larvitar, sunkern, slugma, gligar, swinub, dunsparce, sneasel, huntail, relicanth, mawile, plusle, torkoal, torchic, anorith, lileep, wingull, shroomish, zigzagoon, electrike, ralts, meditite, kecleon, lotad, aron, volbeat, skorupi, cranidos, snowver, carnivine, gible, starly, mantyke, pachirisu, roggenrola, ferroseed, cryogonal, axew, golett, escavalier, emolga, accelgor, inkay, litleo, bergmite, dedenne, fletchling, pancham, gourgeist, noibat, chespin, froakie, tyrunt, goomy, amaura, honedge, skrelp, espurr, bunnelby
KORBudew, Charmander, Eevee, Machamp, Chatot
SPALillipup, Skitty, Weedle, Axew, Ducklett, Clauncher, Eevee, Durant, Zigzagoon, Onix

[Skyblade]

You can also get moonstones with the Pickup ability at a medium to high level. The higher your level, the better your chance. Try breeding your starter and asking for a zigzagoon on the GTS for the 1.7x exp multiplier (+ 1.5x from a lucky egg, +1.2 from high affection in Amie, +?x from not evolving it as soon as you can.... et al).

There is no bonus for not evolving it when you can. The only benefit to doing so is that you keep the learnset of the unevolved form.

I don't even think there are any evolutions that change the Exp Curve of the Pokémon (since doing so could potentially shift the Pokémon's level upon leveling up).

There is a bonus for using a traded Pokémon, though. And it's quite possible that there is an additional bonus for using a Foreign one.

I'm currently being incredibly ambitious and am going to try filling the entirety of my pokedex with each language's entries. I'm not trying too hard at the moment, not until Pokebank comes out and I buy a copy of X, but I'm still putting various mons aside and would appreciate if anyone gets any goodies off the WT for me!

My rules for what pokemon I want are pretty simple:
-Unevolved mons (Oddish, Quilfish, etc.);
-Mons that evolve via trading (Machamp, Scizor, Escavalier, etc.)
-Mons that evolve via stone, other than Leaf, Water and Fire (Raichu, Delcatty, etc.)

A list of what I have so far:
FREZigzagoon, Shelmet, Corphish, Conkeldurr, Geodude, Flabebe, Farfetch'd, Cloyster, Magikarp, Skrelp, Fletchling, Solrock
GERFoongus, Squirtle, Weedle, Poochyena, Quilfish, Dedenne, Aron, Gible
ITAEevee, Ralts, Litleo, Duskull, Riolu
JPNEevee (5/9), magnemite, ditto, oddish, shellder, staryu, sandshrew, bulbasaur, gastly, caterpie, cubine, magikarp, machop, lickitung, scyther, kabuto, venonat, slowpoke, alakazam, golem, abra, charmander, farfetch'd, houndour, mareep, smeargle, larvitar, sunkern, slugma, gligar, swinub, dunsparce, sneasel, huntail, relicanth, mawile, plusle, torkoal, torchic, anorith, lileep, wingull, shroomish, zigzagoon, electrike, ralts, meditite, kecleon, lotad, aron, volbeat, skorupi, cranidos, snowver, carnivine, gible, starly, mantyke, pachirisu, roggenrola, ferroseed, cryogonal, axew, golett, escavalier, emolga, accelgor, inkay, litleo, bergmite, dedenne, fletchling, pancham, gourgeist, noibat, chespin, froakie, tyrunt, goomy, amaura, honedge, skrelp, espurr, bunnelby
KORBudew, Charmander, Eevee, Machamp, Chatot
SPALillipup, Skitty, Weedle, Axew, Ducklett, Clauncher, Eevee, Durant, Zigzagoon, Onix

That is ambitious, but you'll have to get in line. I can supply you with a Metal Coat for your Onix, if you want.


No one wants my spitbacks. I have so many lovely Pokémon I'll just have to release. Scizor is awesome, why would you guys not want a Scyther?

[Ultima Shadow]

I also still have some high IV Larvitar, Gastly, Ralts, Farfetch'd, and Absol running around, and I'm getting to the point where I'm going to want to start clearing my PC boxes. So, if you want one, let me know, and we'll find a time to trade them over.

I already got Ralts and Larvitar (and full IV+EV Gardevoir and Tyranitar) and won't be needing Farfetch'd for any of the pokemons I plan to breed. But I could take an Absol.

Also got perfect Scizor already.

[Bunny]

No one wants my spitbacks. I have so many lovely Pokémon I'll just have to release. Scizor is awesome, why would you guys not want a Scyther?

I'd take a Larvitar and Gastly but don't have much in the way of trade.

I took advantage of the Pokemon Y sale from Toys R Us and pricematched it at Target. Decided to use it to do a Wonder Run. My party is:

Rotom
Deino (Was Minun but it was level 29 so I decided to let it go)
Fletchinder (Was Lombre but was 39, same as above)
Gastly
Eevee (was Sigilyph but it was 19, let it go)
Froakie

The first gym leader was a walk in the park thanks to Rotom's Thunder Bolt.

[WildRaubtier]

There is no bonus for not evolving it when you can.

You might be interested in this second section.

[Endless]

I also still have some high IV Larvitar, Gastly, Ralts, Farfetch'd, and Absol running around, and I'm getting to the point where I'm going to want to start clearing my PC boxes. So, if you want one, let me know, and we'll find a time to trade them over.

I'm interested in a male larvitar, got a triple female with the nature I want already, so now it's all about getting a penta breeding mate, really.

I can trade you spitback quad gligars with their hidden ability (but not in luxury balls >.>)

[Shaibana]

so far ive been finding it pretty boring after the pokeleague..
ive caught all the legendary pokemon (that do not wander around).

now my objective is to challenge the pokeleague with an eeveelution team and an Mega evolution team..

problably wont do either :l i need a story to play

[Tasura]

so far ive been finding it pretty boring after the pokeleague..
ive caught all the legendary pokemon (that do not wander around).

now my objective is to challenge the pokeleague with an eeveelution team and an Mega evolution team..

problably wont do either :l i need a story to play

There's a few things to do after the E4, upgrade your Mega Ring, collect Mega Stones, and do the Looker missions. If you haven't done that yet, that's at least an hour or two of work to do.

[Skyblade]

so far ive been finding it pretty boring after the pokeleague..
ive caught all the legendary pokemon (that do not wander around).

now my objective is to challenge the pokeleague with an eeveelution team and an Mega evolution team..

problably wont do either :l i need a story to play

Honestly, I agree with you. The lackluster post-story is the worst thing about this game. While the Looker missions are good, and somewhat more difficult than the core, they're too easy, and far, far too short.

Even the main story, as dull and poorly written as it was (even for Pokémon), gave you enough engagement to get through it.

Getting my Pokémon into the Hall of Fame is pretty much the only goal left. Well, that and the Battle Maison, but that one is less compelling. You have to be at it way too long to get all the TMs and battle items. Plus, as you said, it lacks a story.

Honestly, if we get a Pokémon Z, I want GameFreak to do something truly unheard of, and just make us a new region to explore and work through a story with, using our current team. We will have Pokébank to transfer all the Pokémon from one game to another swiftly, and I really, really want a story that would be engaging and challenging for a team that has passed X and Y's endgame.

I know that they won't. But at least they could make it an option. Standard gameplay. Challenge Mode (with increased difficulty and more opposing Trainer Pokémon, á la Pokémon Black 2/White 2). Elite Mode, designed for a team that has already beaten the Elite Four. Pokémon Trainers carry Pokémon around level 60 to 70 to start with (my Rattata, it's in the top percentage of Rattatas!), and provide a challenge, that is roughly equivalent to the endgame challenges in X and Y. Heck, ideally, they'd even make some story changes there, as they discuss the new adventure that the Kalos Champion is going on. Nothing big would change, but some of the major characters (like Gym Leaders) would show up again and recognize you.

Currently I should be online the majority of Monday, and in the evenings on both Tuesday and Wednesday.

There is no bonus for not evolving it when you can.

You might be interested in this second section.

Gotcha. There's the thing. I was testing with Pokémon who don't level up via level. Scyther evolves based on trading, Riolu evolves based on friendship level, and Eevee evolves based on every mechanic they could think of.

I'm interested in a male larvitar, got a triple female with the nature I want already, so now it's all about getting a penta breeding mate, really.

The only penta-perfect male I have to give you would have this breakdown: 31/31/31/31/31/0. So, yeah, Speed sucks. On the one hand, that can make it easy to see if the male is passing down Speed (and if you can find a way to get that Speed onto a Honedge, that's great for Aegislash, but that would be a long breeding chain, probably easier to catch one with 0 Speed).

However, I also have a few quad-perfects, though. These include breakdowns of 31/x/31/31/31/x, 31/x/31/31/31/x, 31/x/31/x/31/31, 31/31/x/x/31/31, and x/31/31/31/31/x. Let me know which one interests you (the rest are female) and I'll set it aside. Also, let me know in advance what you'll be trading me, just so that I can make sure that I don't accidently trade the one you wanted to someone else. Or you could take an unhatched egg, if you really want, I have a couple of those.


Also, I seem to only have tri-perfects of Absol left, though you're still welcome to them (Attack and Speed are the most important stats for Absol, and I can give you an Atk/Def/Spe perfect Absol).

Finally, when I looked through my Gastly, I found that my best females were ones which I had used for breeding myself. So they are around level 29 (just from Daycare no EVs). I also have a couple of quad-perfect males, though. So just let me know what you want.

Again, I should be on most of tomorrow, and the latter half of Tuesday and Wednesday, so if you want one of these, find me online then!

[Endless]

Honestly, I agree with you. The lackluster post-story is the worst thing about this game. While the Looker missions are good, and somewhat more difficult than the core, they're too easy, and far, far too short.

I found the looker story more interesting thatn the main story, personally, I'm way more attached to the girl than to Sycamore or any of the other main story characters.

The only penta-perfect male I have to give you would have this breakdown: 31/31/31/31/31/0. So, yeah, Speed sucks. On the one hand, that can make it easy to see if the male is passing down Speed (and if you can find a way to get that Speed onto a Honedge, that's great for Aegislash, but that would be a long breeding chain, probably easier to catch one with 0 Speed).

However, I also have a few quad-perfects, though. These include breakdowns of 31/x/31/31/31/x, 31/x/31/31/31/x, 31/x/31/x/31/31, 31/31/x/x/31/31, and x/31/31/31/31/x. Let me know which one interests you (the rest are female) and I'll set it aside. Also, let me know in advance what you'll be trading me, just so that I can make sure that I don't accidently trade the one you wanted to someone else. Or you could take an unhatched egg, if you really want, I have a couple of those.

Bah, I'm dumb, my right nature pupitar is only a double, not a triple. Anyway, what I'm looking for a is a careful or better, a sassy one, and at the moment I have a careful with two IVs, and two wrong nature males with triple ; low speed isn't an issue.

Again, I should be on most of tomorrow, and the latter half of Tuesday and Wednesday, so if you want one of these, find me online then!

I won't be available most of monday, might have more chance tuesday or wednesday (in my evenings).